Author: Roy Eassa
Date: 07:13:33 04/17/02
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On April 17, 2002 at 03:04:52, Terry McCracken wrote: >On April 17, 2002 at 01:31:51, Joe Little wrote: > >>On April 16, 2002 at 18:28:36, Otello Gnaramori wrote: >> >>>On April 16, 2002 at 17:19:13, martin fierz wrote: >>>>a program which plays a game like shredder vs. >>>>smirin is just not GM strength. it is 3000+ in tactics and 2000- in positional >>>>play. >>> >>>I think that chess is made over 90% of tactics... so 2700+ is not an optimistic >>>evaluation. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Otello >> >> >> I agree, seems pretty obvious to me but who am I? > >Yes Chess is 90% tactics at least, maybe even 95%! But that would still only >mean that programmes play around 2700 level in tactics only, not in positional >play and planning, which is _fundamental_ and till a programme aquires this >skill in won't be a _complete_ Grandmaster. > >Planning is many years away, positional play is advanced a long ways but still >needs improvement. > >Computers will play 2800+ in tactics long before it can actually manage deep >positional play, let alone planning. > >When _all_ weak areas are finally addressed, Computers will be stronger than a >GM and will win almost all the time, but that is likely many years down the >road. > >However they may be still beating GM's almost consistently when Computers are at >2800+ at tactics. > >Only the best anti-computer play will succeed, against them, although there will >still be a few players who will win without using anti-computer play, but not >many. > >Terry Terry, it seems that in many tactical situations today's top programs running on fast PCs may be Elo 3000+. That's why it has become so critical for GMs to adapt their play -- those who don't will lose more games than they win. But I think GMs CAN still improve their anti-computer techniques by a very wide margin (that's not to say that every GM will). The science of anti-computer techniques is still in its infancy, at least compared to the traditional chess techniques that have been refined continuously for centuries.
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