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Subject: Re: A challenge! (CPU vs CPU)

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 07:46:19 05/07/02

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On May 07, 2002 at 01:05:54, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On May 06, 2002 at 22:47:33, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>
>>Well, lets go buddy. :) My box does 1.81GHz air-cooled (SK6), 1.86GHz liquid,
>>2.1 with dry ice. I'll run 1.80 on the dot vs your 2.53. Lets try and bench
>>absolutely everything. Divx encoding, mp3 encoding, chess, 3dmark, quake3, etc
>>etc. I'm ready. >:)
>
>Can I make a prediction? :)
>
>DIVX encoding:  P4 wins, not by a huge margin.  This result could be different
>                depending on the program and settings used.
>MP3 encoding:  If it really takes 2 minutes for that P4 to encode a 10-minute
>               mp3 as Slater said in one previous post, the Athlon should win
>               hands-down.  :) But I think his number was wrong.  It will be
>               practically a tie anyway.
>Chess:  Athlon wins, no contest.
>3dMark: This is much more dependent on the video card than the CPU.
>Quake3: For some time, the P4 has been king in Quake3 framerate, by a lot.
>
>If it relies on sheer calculation, the Athlon should win.  Despite having a
>700MHz handicap in raw speed, it still has more computing muscle than that P4.
>A lot of programs have a great bandwidth dependency, however, which is where the
>P4 has its main strength.  In applications like this, the Athlon is held back by
>its much lower memory->CPU bandwidth.

I agree 100%.

>For normal, everyday applications, it must be impossible to tell a real
>difference between these 2 CPUs.  Use a CPU at half the speed, and most of the
>time you still couldn't tell a difference.  The decision to buy one CPU over the
>other should depend on the specific applications one uses which are more
>CPU-intensive.  If you want a computer only for chess programs, the Athlon is
>the way to go.  If you want a computer to do video editing, the P4 will probably
>be faster for you.

Again, agree 100%.

>This challenge is really rather silly, for several reasons.  The machines being
>compared aren't identical (ignoring the obvious CPU/motherboard difference),
>it's not being done in any kind of controlled setting, and there's no guarantee
>that the programs/settings being used are exactly identical.  Despite this, I'm
>interested to see what results you come up with.

It's not silly at all.  We are comparing one CPU makers "flagship" to another.

The software will be EXACTLY the same.  I guarantee that.



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