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Subject: Re: Rebel's plus sign during analysis

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 00:35:04 08/02/98

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>Posted by Howard Exner on August 01, 1998 at 18:48:04:

>When analysing positions with Rebel 8 it often happens that the
>correct move is locked onto in conjunction with a plus sign appearing
>beside the move. eg. Qh6 (+).

Chess programmers call this a "fail-high". It means for the move in question
that the score is out of the "alpha-beta-window". Therefore the move must
be re-searched with a new "alpha-beta-window" to get the correct score
for the move in question.

>The actual move however can take a long
>time before it becomes the first choice among the other move choices.

It usually takes a bit longer because of the wider "alpha-beta-window".

>Why is there such a long delay in deciding to make this the first choice
>when almost always the move turns out to be correct? Did this occur in
>Rebel 9 also? Will the new Rebel have that long delay between marking
>the move with the plus sign and actually making the move the top choice?

In Rebel10 when a "fail-high" or (+) appears Rebel will immediately mark
the move as "best-move" and THEN start the re-search to figure out the
correct score. This because of the growing popularity of finding key-moves
in the so called computer test sets. As far as I know all (most?) chess
programs act like this.

This change will result in finding key-moves average 20% faster and
therefore Rebel10 will perform a little bit better in computer test sets.

Still you will notice that sometimes (say in 5% of the cases) the "fail-high"
or (+) is NOT rewarded by the "re-search". In this cases Rebel10 will
stick to the previous "best-move".

I have noticed that other chess programs (all??) do not show this
behavior. When they "fail-high" the move always becomes the
"best-move".

Is the latter true or are there programs around who behave like Rebel
in this respect?

- Ed -



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