Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 23:12:03 07/15/02
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On July 16, 2002 at 02:02:18, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >On July 15, 2002 at 23:57:52, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On July 15, 2002 at 23:48:42, Kevin Strickland wrote: >> >>>Hello everyone, >>> >>>As the question of having a WCCC in North America has generated much interest I >>>am organising a "World" Championship in North America. Here are the details as I >>>have them now: >>> >>>- The event will be held at the local university during the long weekend in >>>August 2003, being the 1st through the 4th. Secondary site will be the Edmonton >>>Chess Club. Good venue, spectator support. >>> >>>- The time control will be 40/2 + 30 mins for rest of game. Swiss system will be >>>used. >>> >>>- There will be no entrance fee, although if at the Edmonton Chess Club a $20 >>>CDN "donation" would be helpful. >>> >>>- There is a computer sponsor as well who will supply computers in exchange for >>>advertising. The event is also a _non_ micro event. Participants can bring any >>>mahine they would like. It is open hardware. >>> >>>- Lodgings will be at the Campus Suite Hotel. I have made arrangements there for >>>very cheap rates. They also have a terrific restraunt below them, and the >>>University area has about 200 places to dine. You can easily eat 3 meals in that >>>area for about $20 US a day.. very cheap. ( $30 CDN ) >>> >>>- Authors are not mandatory, but I must say the more the better. >>> >>>- As the controvery came about regarding opening books, if a program does not >>>"own" the book, it can not use it. Even if one has approval from another author. >>>Giving permission to one and not to another seems like playing favorites, so I >>>will just eliminate the problem. >> > >Hello: > >Here, the Rules about the Opening Books of the WCCC Maasstricht 2002 >(http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/Olympiad2002/) in the Rules Section: > >"... 12. Additional Rule 1 >Any participant is allowed to use any book (opening book) they have permission >to use. The same book author is allowed to compete more than once with the same >book or a different book. > >13. Additional Rule 2 >Each participant should mention the book author(s) in the list of program >authors. The participant is obliged to allow the Tournament Director to inspect >the opening book for its contents and origine. ..." > >The only word that I don't like in these Rules are the word "should" in the Rule >13. Instead of, the Rule must say: > >"Each participant MUST mention the book author(s)..." > >As Jeroen Noomen has pointed out several times in this Forum, it is not >permissible to use any book without the Book Creator Authorization. > >As the Diep Book Tournament Creator, it is not a clean competition to use any >Book for a chess program during a Tournament without revealing who is the >Creator. > >>I don't think that eliminates anything except most of the chess programs. > >This is not true. > >1) Read the Page 4 of the WCCC 2002 Bulletin 5: > >http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/Olympiad2002/bulletin/Bulletin5.doc > >There, you can read a Table with all the Book Creators of the chess programs. I >don't see any program using ANY BOOK. Every Author pointed out the Source of the >Book, including a pgn source for some Books. > >2)Read the information of Leiden 2002] > >http://www.computerschaak.nl/partic02t.html > >Here again, you can read the complete information of the Opening Book Creators. >When not mentioned, it means the same Chess Program Author created the Book. > >>I doubt if anyone except Vincent wrote his own book. > >No, this is not correct. Alexander Kure writes the Fritz, Brutus and Nimzo >Books. Jeroen Noomen writes the Tiger and Century Books and so on. Carlos Pesce >writes books for several Amateur Engines and so on..... > >I reiterate you to read again the List of the Mentioned Tournaments. > >> >>>Now any of these details can change as the event is a year away. >>> >>>If anyone has any questions please don't hesitate to email me. > >I hope this Tournament is successful for the Americas and it would be very >pleaseant to such a Tournament in North America. If I understood correctly, what you have pointed out from the current rules is what is supposed to be prevented. Obviously, you cannot use an opening book without permission. That would be wrong. The problem seems to be with sharing the same book among several entrants. Or something like that. At any rate, I do not see any purpose to deny a book (even a specially prepared one) if the author of the book has given permission. That includes a book with a million computer hours spent on the sole purpose of beating Fritz (or whomever).
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