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Subject: Re: Ruffian 0.76 is still playing incredible strong!

Author: Miguel A. Ballicora

Date: 15:45:52 09/19/02

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On September 19, 2002 at 18:33:37, Chessfun wrote:

>On September 19, 2002 at 18:21:10, pavel wrote:
>>On September 19, 2002 at 18:06:32, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>>That's the point.  I can't imagine someone working on an engine, in a vacuum,
>>>>>>>for a decade, before anyone finds out about it.  I can't imagine anyone writing
>>>>>>>a program in 6 months that would come close to beating _any_ top program.
>>>>>>>Anything is possible, I will agree.  But the probability is so low that it
>>>>>>>will make people wonder...
>>>>>>I hope you realize that you have essentially *publicly* leveled an accusation
>>>>>>without presenting any evidence. I would prefer in such cases that either an
>>>>>>investigation be conducted discretely or a wait and see policy be followed.
>>>>>I haven't leveled _any_ accusation whatsoever.  I asked a direct question,
>>>>>pointing out what has happened in the past.  I have _not_ said that this
>>>>>program is a "clone" or anything else, and you can feel free to find some-
>>>>>thing I wrote that does make that claim...
>>>>>As I said previously, I find it _hard_ to believe that a newcomer would be
>>>>>that strong.  _not_ impossible, just _unlikely_.  I stand by that...  If some-
>>>>>one takes that the wrong way, fine by me...
>>>>No offense.
>>>>But you had the same impression when YACE came out.
>>>Yace first release was clearly wekaer than yace of today.
>>Yes I know that.
>>But the time between the first released version of Yace and the last version of
>>Yace was very short, if you consider the increase in strenth.
>>It was when Yace starting doing as good (or even better) that Bob thought it was
>>a crafty clone.
>>Later Dann verified himself and convinced Bob.
>Hi Pavel,
>        It's my honest hope that in this case someone will also be able to do
>the same thing as Dann with Yace. Ruffian has been rumored to be a Crafty clone
>on ICC for some time and I don't doubt Dr. Hyatt has heard those rumors.

Before, in this forum, it was accused of
1) not reporting the right hardware
2) playing with the "move now" controlled by the operator
3) being a commercial program (and lying about being an amateur in the notes)
4) being Russian in a supercomputer

I am really surprised that nobody suggested the real truth.
5) It is Bobby Fischer.



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