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Subject: Re: Ruffian 0.76 is still playing incredible strong!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:13:36 09/19/02

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On September 19, 2002 at 20:20:38, pavel wrote:

>On September 19, 2002 at 20:00:26, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>Of course not.  One was proven to be _another_ clone.  :) (A commercial
>>engine, in fact).  I wasn't saying that _only_ Crafty can be copied.  But it
>>has happened to Crafty enough times already to make anyone think that it will
>>probably happen again.
>>And again, my point is this:  A new engine doesn't suddenly arrive playing at
>>the top.  Someone _always_ knows about it, even if it isn't publicly playing
>>games.  And when it shows up, they will usually say (then) "I knew this was
>>going to be a good engine as I have seen it for a year now..."  or something
>>similar.  IE "brutus" from Chessbase.  Rumors floated for a year.
>>Something new can come out of the dark.  But not very often.  Which was the
>>original point...
>I understand your point.
>But it is not impossible to believe that a program can be so strong but not
>everyone know about it.
>Yace, List are good examples.

But at least Yace is _not_ a good example.  Early versions were not very
strong...  it developed pretty quickly, but _not_ in a dark hole...

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