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Subject: Re: Logic -

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 17:07:56 10/09/02

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On October 09, 2002 at 12:23:27, Günther Simon wrote:

>On October 09, 2002 at 07:58:06, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>Geschenkt. But I have a still worse discovery here. You wrote:
>>
>>"IMHO even a 1900+ player might have some chances for at least a whole
>>point in this match being familiar with DF style and the biggest part
>>of its opening book."
>>
>>Dream on, Günther! You are badly wrong here. Totally wrong. Even if you were
>>able to hold the complete data in your memory you would not be able to master
>>the technique problems later. You are talking like the pupil who's learning his
>>first language and who thinks that now he could understand the conservation in
>>that particular land. Or the student who heard or read something and then
>>thought that he had understood it and now could explain it to other students. If
>>you ever tried it you would have seen that such processes are not similar.
>>Passive knowledge is different to practical abilities. I hope I could give you
>>some important information.
>>
>>Rolf Tueschen
>
>May be we should get more specific:
>dont you think that Kramniks team wasnt able to find 12...Bf8, when they
>invented the novelty 9.Kf1!? dont you think they looked 7 plies more
>into DF thoughts when flags _didnt play any role_ because DF could not
>know this novelty which appeared after an usual wellknown opening?
>Of course we can believe what Kramnik stated until now but how often
>did players of important matches showed their secrets _after_ the match?
>Why do you call this still a conspiracy? I call it professional biz...

I could see that Roy did already answer you. That is one point. The other is
that I do not understand you, what you mean with your idea that he might have
had it on the board. Let's try to analyse what you are saying and perhaps
meaning.

1. This is a match and nobody would tell the press and the opposite side what's
really going on. Is that correct? I would agree with you.

2. Your idea is that because Kramnik had Bf8 on the board he could prepare the
whole game in advance. Is that correct? But then he should have forgotten Bc4?

I have a completely different view. But my view is also not the whole truth!
Perhaps it's completely wrong. But tell me what you are thinking if you read
this...

(1) Kramnik played Fritz also in Blitz for years. He knows what Fritz can
achieve.

(2) Deep in Kramnik's heart or conscience there's the following view:

- Fritz is absolutely stupid positionally
- Fritz is dangerous for a player who is sloppy in his calculations
- I have only a good chance against Fritz if I am well prepared mentally and
psychologically, it will be hard work to win the games, because I must be
concentrated for the whole game
- the biggest problem for me is the question of the money! I'm Russian and I
don't want to present the Western World a Russian who is only greedy at the
money
- my idea ist the following: I can only justify the million dollar prize money
if I play some extraordinary chess games
- by doing that I get into theopposition of these nice people from chessbase
- but since the horror trip in 1997 the World of chess is awaiting someone toset
the record straight. So I must beat FRITZ with a clear result. Fritz is not DB2
but if I beat the terribly strong Fritz (in the eyes of the computer chess
lovers)  I can stir the emotions PRO computer chess and a new spring will bring
golden times for CC
- so, yes, I've found the solution: I am in the zwick or the zugzwang that I
must beat FRITZ with a high result. To prevent that I'm regarded as the asshole
of CC for the next decades I will show to each chess programmer how far they are
away from the beauties of chess. I will create beautiful games where FRITZ
simply is stumbling like the Bear Sonny Liston when got his knock-out against
Cassius Clay. Also Liston was dangerous like hell, but Clay was dancing and
stinging like a bee. So that I will prove them. So that they learn some
humility. And then perhaps they understand how they should treat us chess
masters. With respect!
- But to achieve that I will create some little masterpieces which will even
recognized by the folks of INFORMATOR
- I can only hope that Frederic could understand me and that he won't boycott me
in the future

[- The problem I couldn't solve yet is, who on Earth could be my speaker to the
World. Well, it could only be a congenial deep thinker. Perhaps someone unknown
in the world of chess. Yes, perhaps Rolf from CCC.......]

=====================================================================

That could be the thoughts of Vladimir Kramnik! And if he will win the show
against FRITZ we should thank him a million times because he has brought back
chess into CC!

You out there - could you hear me calling? All together now we must walk into a
different direction in CC. This time we go with chess hand in hand!


=====================================================================



>(To the other stuff: I thought you were at the side who does not exaggerate
>the abilities of chess progs but it seems you changed your point of view
>totally since a while

Err, I don't know what you are talking about. I did NOT change my view. I think
that we must bring back chess into CC and therefore I'm so happy that Vladimir
is playing such wonderful masterpieces! From now on we have two different
department of chess. We have the traditional chess, called human chess. And we
have Anti-computer chess. Here Kramnik has opened a new category. The chess
without spectacular tricks or sacrifices but simply solid chess with piecesthe
usual computer program has no business with. Perhaps even Kasparov is now again
back in the boat. Kramnik is the one who showed the whole world how machines
must be outplayed. Not in the timid Huebner style but with artistic elegance!

A new epoch of chess has just begun.

Yours truly

Rolf Tueschen



- I played >500 tournament games in the late eighties
>until around 1998 and played X thousands of computer games so think I know
>a bit of what I am talkin about - I even had some little contribution
>to the general opening theory when I was much more active)
>
>Günther Simon



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