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Subject: Re: Rebel 10 no longer auto232 compatible !!! !%&$§

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 06:21:02 09/12/98

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On September 12, 1998 at 04:41:10, Dirk Frickenschmidt wrote:

>>>Why do you enjoy a difficult situation?
>and Thorsaten answered:
>>I do not see any difficulties in this situation. It is a pleasure for me.
>>So i enjoy it.


>Again: what is so enjoyable about it. When the Fritz autoplayer was missing, you
>found that terrible and made all kinds of strange remarks about that.

No. Wrong. I was not complaining about the missing fritz autoplayer...
i was complaining about chessBase getting special treatment in sweden and the
ssdf using the hidden autoplayer meanwhile chessbase can buy rebel and tune
against rebel. Ed is now, as a result of this unfair/unbalanced situation, not
anymore supporting chessbase tuning against rebel. So -
I was complaining about matthias negotiations with the ssdf-guys to use a
NON-PUBLIC autoplayer.
You still don't get the point, really ! You don't get the difference, he ?
It's something complete different. Not ED is unfair, chessBase=fritz got an
unfair special condition. Differenciation is not your master job, isn't it ?

>But now: no difficulties at all?
>Did you get used to manual playing and meanwhile find joy in it again? :-)

Yes - when i play manually games (not with the hidden/secret autoplayer), fritz
plays weak and loses (like in paris). I like and I enjoy this much.

:-))

>He said he wants the SSDF not to accept secret autoplayers and expressed clearly
>that this would be no measure aiming at Chessbase.

Right. I see it different. Ed has to speak in another language. I don't have to
be diplomatic. And i will not be diplomatic. Nobody can stop me from saying my
opinion.

>Ed also never said that Moritz or Enrique's Fritz autoplayer games were reasons
>for his decisions. I just read his correction of your false claim.

I can claim whatever i want dirk. This is a free world. I hope you can do the
same. But i am not sure. You are a priest :-)

>So why do you play your private games like or dislike with these things?
>All this ranting just to keep your favourite enemy picture alive?

There is no ranting. I need no enemies when i have friends like you dirk. :-)

>Their rules and tesing methods have always been controversial.

I think I know this, thanks dirk :-)

>What is over when and why, concerning SSDF, is hardly decided by any of us.

I have an opinion about this. My opinion is different from yours. Do you have a
problem with this ?

>So just wait and see.

I don't wait.
My opinion has made. In all the years before.

>And perhaps show some more critical empathy.

Thanks dirk. I will try to do so.
>I had written
>>>You can't quit thinking in categories of "enemy forces", scinece fiction
>>>metaphors of cyborg threats (as you used to do) and the like, can't you?
>
>and you answered:
>>ChessBorg, right.
>>I like sf. it has a moral. It has a message. Ethics.
>
>Yes, it is oversimplisizing good and bad for us kids  :-))
>To give us the feeling we are on the right side against the dark forces.
>I like it as much as you, but I would never forget the limits of this phantasy
>world and its interpretation of good and bad.
>
>>Without killing any barbarians. Just by the topic.
>>chessbase=capitalism for me.
>>And i am not the only person thinking this.
>
>These simple fundamentalistic metaphors only work in rare cases, where you
>either meet pure evil or something extremely good.
>
>To put Chessbase in such categories is a bit ridiculous.
>It's just a not too big company with people working there.
>They do somethings well and some things less well.
>That's all.
>
>I said
>>>You can't imagine that there is no need at all to define oneself in such
>>>children cowboy and red indian catgories, can you?
>You answered:
>>Pah - indians are not negative in my world. Maybe in yours. In my world the
>>cowboys are the negative ones. As chessBase is. Capitalists.
>
>This is really funny: you thought I prefer cowboys over indians?
>Not at all. I played both as a child, most times indians.
>
>I just wanted to say that for adult people it is not always appropriate to think
>in these simple enemy patterns: creating enemies by definition so to say...
>
>I wrote
>>>But we are not at war here, not even at any silly ideological war about
>>>companies or program concepts or programmers.
>And you answered:
>>No - there is no war on the world. No conflicts and no problems.
>>Only a few. Presidents fucking young girls in the white house. Crazy right wing
>>politicians leading israel. russia losing complete control. Some bombs in
>>northern-ireland. Some dead people in indonesia. Some conflicts here and there.
>>Nothing to worry about. haha !
>>
>Once more: what are you reading into what I wrote?
>I wrote: we are not at any kinds of ideological war about programmesrs or
>companies here.
>
>You answered with citing and interpreting all kinds of political conflicts all
>over the world. Can't you see any difference between computerchess and serious
>matters heavily concerning and hurting people? Is it all one big
>fundamentalistic picture of black and white, wrong and right, allies and
>enemies?
>
>I wrote
>>>We're just having fun in chess. At least most of us...
>>
>>I am having much fun. For example that ed has decided this way.
>>YOU are the one who has no humor !
>>I am laughing. Loud.
>
>In Germany we say "Schadenfreude ist auch 'ne Freude", meaning that laughing
>about problems or damage (in your case the wrongly assumed "showing  chessbase
>the red card") may be a kind of joy, but centainly not the best...
>
>If you say I have no humor you may be right in a way:
>I hope my humor is of another kind...
>
>>>--rest snipped--
>>>
>
>Regards
>from Dirk



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