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Subject: Re: If the opponent was Deep Junior Kasparov would have lost for sure!

Author: Marc van Hal

Date: 05:22:59 11/18/02

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On November 18, 2002 at 07:31:14, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 18, 2002 at 06:49:30, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>Nowaday with a piece down against the top five programs Kasparov would never had
>>a chance.
>>
>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=603
>
>It is possible to beat the top programs with a piece down.
>I believe that humans have no problem to beat top programs without a knight if
>you give them the right to take back moves.
>
>I think that it may be interesting to do a tournament of humans against machines
>with the following conditions:
>
>1)humans can choose to give the machine handicap of a pawn or more than it(they
>do it by using the initial position when white does not have part of the
>material).
>
>2)The machines use exactly 10 seconds per move(the games that were played in the
>kasparov case were blitz)
>
>3)In every round the humans have time of 12 hours to try to beat the machine
>with the maximal handicap that they succeed.
>
>4)Human get points in every round based on the maximal value of the material
>handicap that they can give the machine and still not to lose against it.
>If they draw they get 1/2 point less than if they win.
>
>Examples:
>
>a)If they do not succeed to draw or win the machine without material they get 0
>points
>
>b)if they can beat the machine without the rook a1 and  the pawn h2 they get
>5+1=6 points.
>
>c)If they draw against the machine without rook and a pawn they get only
>6-0.5=5.5 points.
>
>5)machines get negative points and the sum of the points of both sides is 0.
>
>I expect GM's to be able to get more than 3 points against most of the top chess
>programs in these conditions.
>
>It may be interesting to find out what is the best machine against humans in
>these conditions.
>
>We only need a sponsor to organize this tournament.
>
>Uri

It  depends on the position you start from.

Marc



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