Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 21:37:56 02/22/03
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On February 22, 2003 at 02:01:30, Jeremiah Penery wrote: >On February 22, 2003 at 01:03:35, Charles Worthington wrote: > >>I am continually being told "how much money I can save with $100.00 cpu's and >>$50.00 motherboards". Where does the assumption originate from that all people >>in the market for computers are looking to save money? I am a stock broker. I >>use my computer for many functions other than running chess engines. I was after >>realiability and performance. > >For most people, the miniscule performance boost you're getting over the machine >with "$100.00 cpu's and $50.00 motherboards" isn't at all worth the thousands of >extra dollars you spent. In either case, the reliability shouldn't be any >different. > >>I cannot deal stocks on a machine that has water >>flowing through it to prevent a meltdown. Is this so hard to understand? > >It's hard to understand only because it's flat-out wrong. You don't WANT to do >it. That doesn't mean you can't do it with 100% safety. > >>Stability was far more important to me than saving a little money and rigging my >>machine to look like a fire station with hoses everywhere and water leaks. I >>dont_want_to have to go out and buy freon to prevent another three-mile-island >>disaster from occuring in my office. I want my machine R I G H T. The way it was >>engineered. When you have to plug your computer in next to a fire hydrant I >>think it's time to seriously evaluate what you are doing. > >Buying $100 CPUs and a $50 motherboard certainly doesn't mean you have to make >your computer "look like a fire station" or that you have to use exotic cooling >methods. If you buy "cheaper" AMD processors and motherboard, they will work >just as well as your vaunted Xeons do with the stock air-cooling that comes with >the machine. > >You're making some seriously unfounded statements about these issues, that have >absolutely no basis in reality. There is a _lot_ of reality in his statements. To wit: 1. If he has a failure in the hardware, Dell will have it fixed _tomorrow_ with no questions asked. Nearly everything they ship comes with a three year warranty that includes next day on site maint. 2. If your bolt it together yourself machine dies, tomorrow you will be sitting on the phone discussing the problems with a variety of vendors, having to justify why _they_ should replace your CPU when you obviously bought a MB capable of overclocking. 3. He also bought a _bunch_ of disk performance. Which will cost the same whether the MB is cheap (as you have to add a decent U320 SCSI controller) or not (MB comes with onboard U320 SCSI). For someone with a machine that _has_ to be up, there is absolutely no comparison between a do-it-yourself overclocker and a commercial off the shelf with onsite warranty system. Not everyone just uses their machines for games. Some do real work. Some depend on them for their very livelihood.
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