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Subject: Re: Introducing "No-Moore's Law"

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:20:22 02/28/03

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On February 28, 2003 at 17:52:48, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On February 28, 2003 at 11:46:24, Matt Taylor wrote:
>>The newest Intel process is 90 nanometers. I remember them talking about ways
>90nm isn't in production yet.
>>hit 30 nanometers. They are -fast- approaching a width of 1 atom.
>30nm isn't going to happen in the next few years.  And 30nm still isn't close to
>the width of a single atom.  IBM has demonstrated 6nm transistors.

They went smaller than that if I recall.  They used a tunneling electron
microscope to actually build a transistor atom by atom.  Of course, that was
a tad labor intensive and not applicable to any known fab process.  :)  But
it did work although I don't remember how small the actual transistor actually
was.  But the number "A few atoms" comes to mind.  I'll try to find the

>>If you have read much about Quantum computing, it is useless for many
>>applications. Quantum computing is useful only for highly parallel problems.
>For many problems, parallel algorithms can be devised to replace the serial ones
>that run well on today's computers.
>>Quantum computers run at ridiculously low speeds right now -- a few Hz.
>Key words being "right now".  The forerunners of today's computers didn't run
>any faster, and technology is accelerating.
>>Aggressive estimates are viable quantum computers in about 20 years.
>>DNA computing is likewise a parallel paradigm and does not address -many-
>See above.
>There are plenty of other options for high-performance computing that don't
>exist today.  I wouldn't be surprised to see asynchronous chips being seriously
>considered soon.  The clock-based approach is beginning to cause lots of
>problems as speed is agressively increased.

IE data-flow?  (Circa 1970 or so)??  :)

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