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Subject: Re: Fritz 8 update

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 10:13:53 03/08/03

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On March 08, 2003 at 12:56:44, Roy Brunjes wrote:

>On March 08, 2003 at 12:34:46, Alastair Scott wrote:
>
>>On March 08, 2003 at 08:38:00, Michael P. Nance Sr. wrote:
>>
>>>Would someone please clear this up for Me!My version of Fritz 8 is dated Nov
>>>2002.When I go to the Playchess site and attemp to up-grade thru the
>>>Query-update ,It says that my version is up to date and no newer version is
>>>avaiable.Is this correct?If another version exists why won't the server give it
>>>to me when I log on.I tried to retype my serial number in the "resister'box but
>>>it said not valid one time and nothing happen the other times I tried.Help me
>>>out on this.I had the same problem with Fritz 7 tring to up-date on the
>>>Playchess server and We won't even talk about the problems I had up-dating Fritz
>>>6.What can I do here?Awaiting to hear from You.>>>>Mike
>>
>>After experimentation I've found that there are 4 conditions before the upgrade
>>will 'take';
>>
>>i. You must have installed an original (27 November 2002) version of F8 without
>>any of the subsequent semi-official upgrades;
>>
>>ii. You must have logged on to playchess.com with a username and password (not
>>Guest);
>>
>>iii. You must have entered the serial number from the front page of the manual
>>after you logged on but before you tried the upgrade;
>>
>>iv. Personal firewalls should be turned off for the duration of the upgrade.
>>
>>The answer to 'why' is 'the Fritz 8 upgrade process is a poor piece of work',
>>sadly. And such convolutions are becoming more common; I found that PGP 8.0
>>could not be registered online from within my company and I had to take my
>>laptop off the network, dial in remotely and try the registration that way
>>before it could complete!
>>
>>Oh for the days of downloading SETUP.EXE and clicking on it ;)
>>
>>Alastair
>
>I applaud your efforts in trying to isolate this problem.  However, my upgrade
>"took" and I violated your first point.  I had installed F8 (Nov 27 version)
>from CD when I first received it.  I had applied many of the GUI updates (the
>latest I had was from sometime shortly after Feb 14th -- Feb 23?  I cannot
>recall exactly).  Anyway, I had already registered my copy with the serial
>number or whatever they call it on playchess.com.  When I connected to
>playchess.com a few days ago, I was prompted to upgrade and all went well.
>
>It is rather frustrating and rather poorly implemented by ChessBase.  Their lack
>of monitoring of this bulletin board (a fertile hunting ground for customers I
>should think) is also hard to fathom.
>
>If "real" software vendors were THIS bad, they would be out of business after a
>few years.  ChessBase gets away with it because the market is such a small niche
>and there is room enough for their competitors (some of which are not much
>better in these matters) and ChessBase both to survive, IMHO.
>
>Roy

I disagree somewhat -- their software is not bad, it's rather good.  Customer
Support is a little lacking , especially when compared to Lokasoft.

The above mentioned upgrade process is poor because it is so ill-defined.  First
, they should be telling what they are fixing - there should be no hidden
agendas,  Perhaps what they are fixing is N/A to you - the why should bother
with a 30 minute upgrade (56KM modem).

Secondly, the upgrade process so be defined in their help manuals.  If you never
log on to playchess, and you are running windows XP , have more than 512MB of
ram and you don't read this forum -- you're screwed because you have only two
chances of you receiving a replay that you need to upgrade and those are slim
and none.  Mamy programs now have in their help menu section - "Check for
upgrades" -- but it should be in their main F8 application - not just the Play
chess.




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