Author: Omid David Tabibi
Date: 14:33:49 04/10/03
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On April 10, 2003 at 12:44:46, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On April 10, 2003 at 12:39:59, Christophe Theron wrote: > >>On April 10, 2003 at 12:02:05, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On April 10, 2003 at 11:37:50, Jonas Bylund wrote: >>> >>>>On April 10, 2003 at 10:27:57, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 10, 2003 at 10:11:21, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 10, 2003 at 09:25:09, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 10, 2003 at 09:20:15, ERIQ wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>These are all great goals, but I like this order better. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>* A Linux/bsd version of Chess Tiger w/ great gui ie. Eboard or better. >>>>>>>>* A native ARM version of Chess Tiger for Palm >>>>>>>>* Chess Tiger 16 >>>>>>>>* ...and a few more projects that I prefer to keep secret >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>basis for order is: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>1.I will have a freebsd system running in about two week hopefully (just waiting >>>>>>>>on hardware to arrive) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>2.As soon as I could buy a new sony palm I will. So I can win a game from time >>>>>>>>to time :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>3.And ct16 should be last because ct15 is already too strong!! whether it's >>>>>>>>first or last on that silly list that everone likes, I can't beat it on a 486 >>>>>>>>comp. And yes I've tried shamlessly >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Just my two cents. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sign, >>>>>>>> Eriq >>>>>>> >>>>>>>a dual version of CT15 would kick more butt than ct16 or working at the unknown >>>>>>>freebsd. note that freebsd allows multiprocessing but multithreading at it i >>>>>>>cannot advice. >>>>>> >>>>>>I think a dual version of CTX would be great! maybe we should have a hands up >>>>>>here, to see if we can influence the order of things ;) (note: people with dual >>>>>>processor systems votes count double, ok maybe only 1.7 :) >>>>>> >>>>>>Jonas >>>>> >>>>>Some people are simply too lazy or have too much bugs in their software to get >>>>>stuff parallel well to work. >>>>> >>>>>It will be always like that. >>>> >>>>Well i don't know where that came from, but i am quite sure that an accomplished >>>>programmer like CT would have no problems making Tiger SMP. >>> >>>in which case he is just plain lazy now. >> >> >> >>Vincent I have explained that I have other priorities. >> >>Why should I spend time on a task that I estimate is mostly a waste of time? >> >>Can you mention the benefits that has brought to you the multiprocesor version >>of Diep? > >i show up at 500 processors world champs 2003 to name one. > >other is that i don't need to waste my time with forward pruning because i get >already a factor 2 nearly out of SMP. You get a factor 2 speedup, so you don't need to waste time with forward pruning?? Beware Vincent, you are starting to sound like the IBM folks...! > >>Have you won any tournament thanks to it? Has it improved your image, the >>perception of quality in the eye of your future customers? How much money (=fuel >>to continue improving your chess engine) have you made from it? > >It definitely will. > >Noomen has brought you a few victories at quick levels. Well done Christophe. > >>How can you justify that it has not been an almost complete waste of time? >> Christophe > >History will forget you. History won't forget me. You will see soon. So far SMP >was just a factor 1.5 speedup for most and 1.8 to 2.0 for some. > >But coming years the difference will be way more. Factors 4.0 to 8.0 will not >get uncommon. Just read my lips. > >In my case how about 500 cpus at europes fastest supercomputer for >computerchess? > >Now *that* is a bigger sales argument than you might think Christophe. Let's not >publicly discuss sales. But you know what i mean. I bet you want to exchange all >those tournament victories for just one shot at the title at a world >championship which simultaneously is also a shot to playing the FIDE world >champ! > >Best regards, >Vincent
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