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Subject: >1 pipeline stage for L1D access?

Author: Anthony Cozzie

Date: 00:36:33 04/22/03

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>This guy is a moron. He goes on and on about the P4's L1 dcache as if the
>engineers at Intel all ride the short bus to school and somehow forgot to put
>some more cache on the chip. Any idiot knows that the P4 has such a small dcache
>because Intel wanted a cache with a 2 cycle latency instead of the 3 cycle
>latency of the Athlon and P6. If Intel's measurements and simulations indicated
>that a 3 cycle cache would be better, don't you think they would have put one
>in? I mean, it's not like a 3 cycle cache is harder to design than a 2 cycle
>cache (it's easier) and Intel's done it before, obviously. And if all Intel was
>after was high clock speeds, putting low latency caches on their chips isn't the
>way to go about it.

While I agree with you (the P4 was designed for multimedia apps and not chess,
and yes, it is good at them) I don't understand this talk about multi-cycle
dcache latencies.  I was under the impression that *any* processor that took
more than one cycle to access L1D was horribly slow, and my Athlon MP
optimization guide says that the data cache access is peformed in one pipeline
stage. (P219).

anthony



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