Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Status of Brutus?

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 15:11:31 07/26/03

Go up one level in this thread


On July 26, 2003 at 17:22:02, Russell Reagan wrote:

>On July 26, 2003 at 16:25:37, O. Veli wrote:
>
>>Since it is hardware, can
>>we expect to be stronger than top software?
>
>I would expect it to be slower than top software, because cpu improvements
>happen so quickly, and FPGA programming (from what I've heard) is not a simple
>task. If he spends another two years working on it before releasing it (as
>Slater said), just imagine how much faster the cpus will be by then.
>
>If you're talking about something massively parallel like Deep Blue, that is one
>thing, but a single PCI card? I doubt that is going to do any better than break
>even with top of the line hardware, so why bother? IBM threw so much hardware at
>the problem that desktop cpu improvements wouldn't catch up for a LONG time, but
>a single PCI card doesn't seem to be worth the trouble of programming the thing,
>because desktop/server cpus will probably outperform it before too long.

Chrilly already has a project with a university to do 100+ PCI Brutus cards.

It's hard to 'see' what your HW is doing, although Chrilly and Hsu had/have
educated guesses.  Chrilly's latest 'guess' was 3M nps.  Junior & Fritz get more
than that on pretty standard PCs nowadays.  Even Crafty could get that nowadays.
 I truly believe that Brutus' eval is not as complex or as refined as *any* of
those.

But the same technology that makes CPUs faster, make FPGAs bigger & faster too.



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.