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Subject: Re: Celeron 300A vs. PII 450

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:16:24 11/06/98

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On November 06, 1998 at 17:08:38, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>Depends on the program. My guess is that many programs will run much faster on
>the o/c Celery because of its faster L1 cache. Many other programs will run much
>slower because of the smaller size of the L1 cache.
>
>As for the hash table, the village idiot can tell you that a 128 MB hash table
>can not fit in 128 k of L1 cache. Hash table size is a total non-issue, unless
>you use a hash table that's really really really small and it DOES fit in L1
>cache, in which case it's pretty much useless anyway.
>
>-Tom

A couple of things..  I assume you meant L2 but typed L1? IE the celeron L1
is the same as the PII L1 size and speed-wise.  L2 is another matter, with
the PII having 512K at clock/2, while the celeronA has 128K at clock/1...

But as far as hash tables go, they don't count for cache... the average program
executes 2,000 instructions (or more) per node, which means only a couple of
those instructions access the hash table, the rest do other things... small
enough that hashing has little to do with cache efficiency...IMO...




>
>
>On November 06, 1998 at 11:58:19, Ren Wu wrote:
>
>>Hi, all
>>
>>Sorry if this is a little offtopic.
>>
>>I was almost ready to get a PII450 system, until i found that everyone seems be
>>able to overclocking Celeron 300A to 450 as well. The huge price difference make
>>me think twice on this.
>>
>>Did anyone here has a Celeron 300A, and o/c to 450? If so, what is the
>>performance difference compare with the real 450? Will be nice if someone can
>>post some data, like crafty's benchmarks, although Norton SI is also good.
>>
>>Celeron300 A only have 128K L2, is this a big disadvantage even o/c to 450, when
>>you have a huge hashtables (say 128 or 256MB)?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Ren.



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