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Subject: Re: In about 20 years computer earned 1000 elo points, what's you forecast ?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 14:40:21 10/02/03

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On October 02, 2003 at 16:05:54, stuart taylor wrote:

>On October 02, 2003 at 05:32:56, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>On October 01, 2003 at 19:45:38, Roger D Davis wrote:
>>
>>>On October 01, 2003 at 16:51:51, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>>
>>>>20 years ago, an home computer, who run a chess engine, weight about 1600, now
>>>>about 2600.
>>>>What will be strenght of chess computer in 2013 ?
>>>>
>>>>Please give your oppinion ...
>>>>(3100 is tempting :o) )
>>>
>>>Problem is, in the past there was something to shoot for: Grandmaster moves
>>>definitely better than those produced by computers, even at shorter time
>>>controls. However, soon we'll be in a phase where it's no longer clear that
>>>grandmaster moves are superior. In fact, we might be entering a phase where
>>>there are only stylistic differences between programs. That is, computers might
>>>be able to find, for many positions, multiple good moves that all represent
>>>perfect play because they all draw.
>>
>>That is not perfect play. The goal in chess is to beat your opponents(IE to get
>>as many points as possible) and not to never lose against any opponent.
>>In order to do that you have to pose him/it problems he/it is not able to solve.
>>
>>No one knows, because no one knows what the
>>>whole chess tree looks like, and never will.
>>>
>>>roger
>
>If you have a chess program which NEVER EVER loses, then I think it will easily
>surpass 3000 any time.
>It will obviously present many problems too, as that ability is a necesity to
>never ever lose.
>S.Taylor

No

Suppose that the program choose random best move from the 32 piece tablebases.
It is not going to win most of its games against GM's.

It may even draw by repetition games because it is going to play weak drawing
moves in the opening and later force repetition because it has no choice.

Uri



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