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Subject: Re: beyond 3000+

Author: martin fierz

Date: 05:53:42 10/07/03

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>I could envision a chess player that is as strong at chess as Marion Tinsley
>was at checkers.  If a player only loses a couple of games over a 20 year
>period, he's going to most likely have a 3000+ rating, again assuming that
>he matches Tinsley's overall performance and not drawing _every_ game.

IMO chess players are better at chess than checkers players at checkers. i don't
want to say anything against tinsley, but checkers is *far* from the level of
professionalism that chess has achieved. you have hundreds or maybe even
thousands of intelligent people studying chess hard, many hours a day, for
years. how many like that do you have in checkers? not one. no non-professional
chess player is anywhere near the top.
what made tinsley unique (besides his talent) is that he was really dedicated to
that game, and studied it like no other. but he still studied less than any
average chess professional does chess today. checkers players have no database
tools like chessbase. tinsley had no strong programs to analyze with. checkers
literature is virtually non-existent compared to the massive body of chess
literature.
another point about tinsley and his very rare losses is that he was a very
cautious player, who would rather win a match with 1 win and 19 draws than with
9 wins, 1 loss and 10 draws. checkers is very drawish. you cannot compare the
small number of his losses in checkers to chess.

cheers
  martin



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