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Subject: Re: The Shredder-Jonny draw...

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 11:21:32 11/30/03

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On November 30, 2003 at 14:15:11, Roger D Davis wrote:

>On November 30, 2003 at 14:10:45, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>Is not so suspect...
>>
>>Johannes Zwanzger said that Shredder was clearly won, and that he did not want
>>to 'steal the victory' from Shredder because of a stupid bug.  THAT is why he
>>did not get a TD, and kept playing.  It was Johannes Zwanzger's choice, and no
>>one else.
>>
>>Shredder won.  Period.
>
>I think it depends on whether you believe programs should be allowed to blunder,
>and whether operators should be completely passive, or whether they should be
>allowed to use their own judgment to change the outcome. My own preference is to
>eliminate the human operator as a variable, however noble his intentions.
>Otherwise you end up with results that seem chivalrous at one level, but have
>absurd consequences at the level of the entire tournament. Plus, human variables
>should be eliminated because it's intended to be engine versus engine.
>
>Roger

Had the game actually been drawn, and Johannes Zwanzger lost the game because he
didn't want Shredder to lose to a 'rookie', I would think it was bogus.  But it
was a won position, and it was a bug in Shredder.  Hell, Shredder was showing
something like +10 on the screen for itself...most people wouldn't have even
played on at that point.



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