Author: Reinhard Scharnagl
Date: 08:35:35 12/22/03
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On December 22, 2003 at 11:26:05, swaminathan natarajan wrote: >On December 22, 2003 at 11:13:10, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote: > >>On December 22, 2003 at 10:59:37, swaminathan natarajan wrote: >> >>>Hi Reinhard, >>> >>>why Shuffle chess not so popular nowadays for testing chess engines >>>i would pick shuffle chess rather than normal or FRC >>> >>>1.normal chess needs opening book >>>2.most engine does not support FRC >>> >>>So,Shuffle chess is the best way to ESTIMATE programs playing strenght >> >>Hi swaminathan, >> >>in my opinion shuffle chess - without castling - is no real chess, >>whereas FRC is a game superset fully including the traditonal chess! >> >>See: [http://www.rescon.de/Compu/fullchess1_e.html] (ten pages). >> >>Regards, Reinhard. > > >Hi > >i doubt wheter all engines support Shuffle chess...... >i know only a few engines(EL Baron,Hermann,Betsy etc)support FRC > >i like any kind of chess,Ruffian plays Shuffle chess but crafty doesnt > >some play,some dont > >i want all programs play from different start position > >thanks to your work in FRC! Hi swaminathan, there also are engines, which do not play shuffle chess correctly. May be they are castling, when king and rook are placed at traditional places, may be they do not understand shuffle chess starting positions at all. But you are right, until now there are much too less FRC enabled engines. Seriously spoken, there still are some minor problems implementing FRC or using an FRC enabled GUI. The ARENA GUI has a leading implementation of it. But the reason for widly ignoring implementing FRC seems to be, that engine writers like to cover opening weaknesses by using huge opening libraries. But by that they also are avoiding progresses in developing that game phase. For that see: [http://www.rescon.de/Compu/schachfair_e.html] on fair engines. Regards, Reinhard.
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