Author: Keith Evans
Date: 21:06:09 03/03/04
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On March 03, 2004 at 23:16:41, Johan de Koning wrote: >On March 03, 2004 at 21:15:25, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On March 03, 2004 at 19:03:22, Johan de Koning wrote: >> >>>On March 02, 2004 at 23:17:02, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On March 02, 2004 at 21:14:16, Albert Silver wrote: >>>> >>>>>On March 02, 2004 at 05:57:16, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On March 02, 2004 at 02:18:30, Johan de Koning wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 16:18:55, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 14:06:56, Matthew Hull wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>It's ironic that with the advent of fast, stable, commodity interconnectivity, >>>>>>>>>and the development of tried-and-tested automation interfaces, that the >>>>>>>>>so-called "world championship" has only gotten slower, longer, more expensive >>>>>>>>>and more colloqial. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Once again, the most awesome power on earth (stupidity) triumphs over >>>>>>>>>technology. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>It seems that it always does. :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>But you can change the world, if you want to! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Just start by celebrating Thanksgiving and Christmass through phone and e-mail. >>>>>>>Soon you will discover that the possibilites are almost unlimited. Students will >>>>>>>pick it up quickly of course, and the class rooms can be turned into a >>>>>>>profitable asset. Within a decade the rest of the world will follow, and lower >>>>>>>Manhattan can be turned into a profitable theme park. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>But then again, what's the point of a theme park if everyone get their kicks on >>>>>>>the super highway? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>... Johan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>You can change the world but not the general stupidity of man. Look, by all >>>>>>means certain people are trying to claim that making money to feed a family is >>>>>>of similar value than gambling in a 11 round Championship with the leading progs >>>>>>playing much weaker opponents in the last rounds. The next step is the claim >>>>>>that such gambling pays off for the leading programmers in a similar manner than >>>>>>holding classes in universities. Then the final point is that actually gambling >>>>>>is the central key point, while formerly it was a hobby for academics in their >>>>>>spare time at the weekends. A bit this reminds me of the many academic drop-outs >>>>>>who see their drinking habits and other hobbies on the same level as serious >>>>>>research activities at universities. But again, you can't change the general >>>>>>stupidity of man. >>>>>> >>>>>>Rolf >>>>> >>>>>I think you missed his point Rolf. Johann was saying that although it is >>>>>perfectly possible to do the competition on the Internet, just like one could >>>>>theoretically celebrate Thanksgiving or Christmas only online as well, it isn't >>>>>the same experience as doing it live. >>>>> >>>>> Albert >>>> >>>> >>>>That is still apples/oranges. >>>> >>>>A tournament is first about the games, and that is just as effective over the >>>>net as it is in person, >>> >>>Well sure, if you limit the importance of a tournament to its games >>>(or even the results), it is pointless to have a "physical" event. >>>Duration and location are also not an issue then. >> >>physical events are fine. We call those "conferences". :) They do _not_ last >>two weeks, however... 2-3 or even 4 days is just fine, but _not_ two weeks... > >ICG10 lasted 3 days. > > >>>>Holidays are first about getting together with family. >>>> >>>>The "irony" is non-existent IMHO >>> >>>With increasing connectivity the 'life' in 'IRL events' is getting *more* >>>important, not less. Internet pioneers knew that a long time ago. Some >>>people still don't know it and assume technology is meant to deprive us >>>from such events. That's the irony. >>> >>>... Johan >> >>You _can_ do both. Frequent/long tournament events. Short conferences to >>discuss algorithms, etc... >> >>Events on the net. Conferences up close and personal. > >Sure you can do both, or any subset that suits. >Consider yourself invited to the conference at Bar-Ilan for 3 days. >I'll be looking forward. > >... Johan Why not really do _both_ - simultaneously? Some people in person, some over the Internet. If you're worried about cheating then why not some people in person in Israel, some people in person at a designated physical location in America, some games played over the Internet between the two designated physical sites, some played face to face at a given site, maybe all actually played over the internet to hopefully reduce the chances of operator interference. Or just certain VIPs allowed to play over the Internet. You could even set up video walls with internet cams,... Could be quite social. -Keith
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