Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: KRBKNN ... and KRNKNN

Author: margolies,marc

Date: 07:31:49 04/30/04

Go up one level in this thread


i think your suggestion is a bit of a red-herring here.
any gm tournament which has sponorship and a TOMA/DGT system will be able to
handle this technology and cost issue practically. and outside the celestial
realm of super-gm play the issue addressed by this potential rule-change to EG
move-length is moot in the paradigm that I offered you.
-marc


On April 30, 2004 at 10:19:35, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On April 30, 2004 at 10:02:02, margolies,marc wrote:
>
>>both questions are reasonable.
>>1) having been to many tournaments, I can tell you that even when 200 boards are
>>in the room that a much fewer number are critical to the outcome of the
>>tournament. Also that amomg those critical boards even fewer would have players
>>whose skills would necessitate the application of the **progress** definition
>>which I presented here.
>>A practical application of the new rule might only concern the top 100 players
>>in the world plus computer players. In an Olympiad,eg, only the top board of a
>>team might be observed in this way for long term progress.
>>
>>2) I agree that a critical mass of tablebase generation must happen before such
>>a rule is enacted. But I also believe that rule changes happen slowly and in
>>response to a change in conditions of over-the-board play.
>>The short answer is that I am in no rush to see this rule enacted. By the time
>>enough arbiters could ever find this idea attractive ( and this is possible
>>because the objective criteria which I proffered actually lessens their need for
>>sophisticated EG understanding) the tablebase resources will probably be
>>existant. If the idea of the rule is attractive enough, itcould also drive a
>>market for tablebase generation.
>>
>>-marc
>
>Suppose the arbiter only has room for a subset of all the TBs, few people
>actually have room for them all currently.
>So a tournament might not be possible without a big investment in hardware, or
>the alternative is nobody will be able to follow the FIDE rules.
>
>I suppose the arbiter could publish a list before the tournament begins, to tell
>everybody which TBs he has on his computer, then for the rest the x-move rule
>applies.
>Now all the players can keep this list by their side while they play, to sneak a
>peak at which endgames they can safely go into and which to avoid.
>
>Of course if I've studied how to mate with RN vs NN and the stupid arbiter
>doesn't have that on his computer I will instantly complain to FIDE.
>
>All in all a very neatly thoughtout mess :)
>
>-S.



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.