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Subject: Re: Strange humans

Author: George Tsavdaris

Date: 17:00:05 05/05/04

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On May 05, 2004 at 18:15:54, Vincent Lejeune wrote:

>In the article "Tactics from the Russian Team Champ" on the chessbase site (
>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1625 )
>We can see this position :
>[D]r1r3k1/3n1b2/p1qp3Q/1p2p2p/4P3/1PP1BP2/2P5/1K1R1B2 w - - 0 29
>with the comment "29.Bxb5!! ...this clearance sacrifice."; In fact Bxb5 is only
>the third best move, Chessmaster 9000 confirms that with the 3 best moves mode :

 As all moves lead to mate, all moves are the best ones. So i don't think Bxb5
deserves a (!!) but only a (!) .
 Also the below analysis doesn't prove that Bxb5 is not a mate in 6 or 7 for
example, so it may be the quickest mate after all.

>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>4:48	1/13	Mate07	127988483	29.Bh3 Nf6 30.Qxf6 Qe8 31.Bh6 Qf8
>					32.Rg1+ Bg6 33.Qxg6+ Kh8 34.Bxf8
>					Rxf8 35.Qg7#
>4:54	1/13	Mate08	130793582	29.Bc4 Qxc4 30.Rg1+ Bg6 31.Rxg6+
>					Kf7 32.Rg7+ Ke8 33.bxc4 Rc7 34.Qxh5+
>					Kd8 35.Qh8+ Nf8 36.Qxf8#
>5:25	1/13	Mate15	145728017	29.Bxb5 Nf8 30.Rg1+ Bg6 31.Rxg6+
>					Nxg6 32.Qxg6+ Kh8 33.Bg5 d5 34.Bxc6
>					Rxc6 35.Qxc6 Rf8 36.Qh6+ Kg8 37.Qg6+
>					Kh8 38.Qxh5+ Kg8 39.Bh6 Kh7 40.Bxf8+
>					Kg8 41.Qh6 Kf7 42.Qg7+ Ke8 43.Qe7#
>
>And strange Shredder 8 :
>in the 3 best moves mode, here is what I get from 3rd to 20th minute :
>
>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>
>1. +- (#200): 1.Fc4 Dxc4 2.bxc4 bxc4 3.Txd6 Fg6 4.Dxg6+ Rf8
>2. +- (#175): 1.Fh3 Dxe4 2.Tg1+ Dg4 3.Fxg4 hxg4 4.Txg4+ Fg6 5.Txg6+ Rf7 6.Tg7+
>Re8
>3. +- (20.89): 1.Fxb5 Cf8 2.Tg1+ Fg6 3.Txg6+ Cxg6 4.Dxg6+ Rh8 5.Fg5 d5 6.Fxc6
>Txc6 7.Dxc6 Tf8 8.Dh6+ Rg8 9.Dg6+ Rh8 10.Dxh5+ Rg8 11.Dg6+ Rh8 12.Ff6+ Txf6
>13.Dxf6+ Rg8 14.exd5 e4 15.d6
>
>
>I hope SMK will improve the evaluation of the depth of mate in Shredder 9 !

 Yes, this is very annoying and i also hope he will fix it. It is there from
Shredder 6.0. It usually displays the correct variation and score in the next
ply.



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