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Subject: Re: New list WCCC participants and Free Hardware

Author: James Swafford

Date: 13:07:14 06/02/04

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On June 02, 2004 at 16:03:10, James Swafford wrote:

>On June 02, 2004 at 10:06:22, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On May 29, 2004 at 16:13:24, James Swafford wrote:
>>
>>>On May 29, 2004 at 14:15:37, Frank Phillips wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 29, 2004 at 12:53:54, James Swafford wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 29, 2004 at 11:53:29, Frank Phillips wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 29, 2004 at 11:44:58, James Swafford wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 29, 2004 at 11:35:07, Frank Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On May 29, 2004 at 04:00:31, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I don't think so. The program still has weaknesses that a bit of
>>>>>>>>>extra hardware will not overcome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>GCP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What are these weaknesses?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Bob may even be able to fix them before the event.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>He was talking about his program, not Crafty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks.  I misread the post.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But I am still interested in the weaknesses being referred to by GCP, which are
>>>>>>resistant to faster hardware.  I have so many myself.  If only I knew what they
>>>>>>were :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>As in, "I can't seem to mate Shredder, even with faster hardware!" ?? :)
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>James
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I guess the answer is yes, although I have never had better hardware - and am
>>>>not SMP, so probably never will.
>>>>
>>>>See you tonight at ICC author's only tournament ?  :-)
>>>
>>>NOt as a competitor-- my thing is nowhere near strong enough
>>>to compete yet.  I'm hoping to be able to compete in the next
>>>CCT, though.
>>
>>Are you still doing the learning stuff?
>
>I've been working with TDLeaf quite a bit.  At some point I'll
>post something with some meat to it, but to sum it up, I'm
>not nearly as optimistic about it as I once was.
>
>In my experience, TDLeaf can train the material weights, and it
>can even produce an evaluation vector that's superior to a
>'material only' vector.  I am not convinced it's useful for
>training a complex vector, nor am I convinced it does a better
>job than hand tuning.  For that matter, I am not even
>convinced it converges to the optimal vector!
>
>Caveat: it's possible (though I think it's unlikely) that
>my implementation is flawed.  My engine will become open source
>at some point (maybe after the next CCT), so you can judge
>for yourself then.
>
>Will Singleton and I had a bet on this... I conceited defeat


Gah!  I "conceded" defeat.

>the other day.  THe original bet was for the loser to fly
>the winner and spouse across country for drinks. :)  I'm
>pretty sure Will's decided he'll forego that if I show up
>at a tourney, but that's his call.
>
>I'm still very interested in learning algorithms, but I'll
>be focusing on improving my evaluation for a while.
>
>Again- I will post some data at some point.
>
>--
>James



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