Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Genius3(!)-vs-MChessPro7 result; surprise?!

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 07:36:39 01/19/99

Go up one level in this thread


On January 19, 1999 at 10:15:07, Harald Faber wrote:

>On January 19, 1999 at 09:56:26, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>>>>>Next match will be Genius3-MCP8 to compare MCP8 a bit with MCP7.
>>>>
>>>>Please note, that Genius is "Angstgegner" to Mchess! In SSDF play M8 - G5
>>>>result was 15,5 - 24,5, even if M8 is rated higher.
>>>
>>>Yes, I have seen it too with a smile in my face. :-)
>>>However, what can we say if MCP8 wins? :-)
>>>MCP8 is stronger than MCP7 or Genius3 is weaker than Genius5? ;-)
>>
>>I don't think you can say anything regarding strength after only one match.
>
>For it contains 40 games one can say a bit.
>Of course for statistical relevance we need >500 games but none of us will do
>that.

I was not only referring to the number of games, but to the fact that some
programs are "customers" of others. Program A can intensly dislike program B,
without this meaning that B is stronger than A. I think it’s important to make
them play as many different opponents as feasible.

>And I also know of Genius being "Angstgegner" for MCP. But I repeat, I only
>wanted to see if old predecessors are able to compete with actual programs. In
>case of Genius3 I would certainly say YES very clearly.

I am very interested in this too. Genius 3( or 4/5/6, quite the same)is, I
think, quite a bit weaker than Junior 5, Hiarcs 7 and Tiger, for example.

>>In my opinion, there is no difference of strength between the engines in
>>G3/4/5/6. Instead, I think M8 is stronger than M6/7 and Genius.
>>Enrique
>
>Me too, but that is only a feeling, nothing based on facts so far. But I hope to
>see it soon although it is hard for me to recognize strength improvement at that
>level...

It is getting very difficult...

Enrique



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.