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Subject: Re: The King 3.33 Milan 1.7a - my final settings

Author: Joshua Haglund

Date: 00:29:03 02/05/05

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On February 04, 2005 at 22:52:42, Andrew Walker wrote:

>On February 03, 2005 at 23:57:38, Joshua Haglund wrote:
>
>>On February 03, 2005 at 22:18:36, Andrew Walker wrote:
>>
>>>On February 03, 2005 at 22:10:15, Andrew Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 03, 2005 at 21:16:06, Jason Kent wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>@ Playchess.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Play 2649 more games with The King 3.23 SKR.
>>>>>>Play 5000 games with The King 3.33 Milan 1.7a.
>>>>>>Play 2483 more games with The King 3.33 R2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Then these will be added to my list and go against:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Engine            Elo Range Avg.   ELO RANGE
>>>>>>The King 3.23 R1     2547          2544-2550
>>>>>>The King 3.33        2535          2520-2550
>>>>>>The King 3.23        2468          2459-2477
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Joshua Haglund
>>>>>>toneewa@yahoo.com
>>>>>
>>>>>How do you know what setting is being used when it is played online?  I usually
>>>>>call my 3.23 settings CM9 "name", and 3.33 settings CMX "personality name".  Is
>>>>>the server able to tell exactly what is running?
>>>>>
>>>>>Jason
>>>>
>>>>Note those numbers don't take into account:
>>>>- Computer speed (and if any other tasks are running)
>>>>- Hash size
>>>>- Learning accrued
>>>>- The opening book used
>>>>- If engine parameters have been changed
>>>>- How many if any tablebases are in use
>>>>Make your own judgement!
>>>
>>>Also, older engines will have a far greater proportion of games played on
>>>slower machines. So his numbers are just hot air.
>>
>>That is why there is a ELO RANGE. Not just one rating on one machine, with
>>certain settings, etc.
>
>Still doesn't make sense. I just saw one of your posts claiming +- 20 points
>for Shredder8. The number of machines playing with this engine are going to
>show a far greater range of ELO strength. You have not shown that you can use
>this to compare the strength of two engines, as you are measuring different
>quantities for each one.

It's very simple. Shredder 8 has +/- 20. It is an ELO Average of all the users
with Shredder 8 with a ELO RANGE +/-. The reason it doesn't have a such a wide
range is because it's consistant between the ELO RANGE.

Joshua Haglund
toneewa@yahoo.com



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