Author: chandler yergin
Date: 20:33:25 04/26/05
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On April 26, 2005 at 19:50:01, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On April 26, 2005 at 18:08:01, chandler yergin wrote: > >>On April 26, 2005 at 17:04:26, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On April 26, 2005 at 16:52:10, chandler yergin wrote: >>> >>>>On April 26, 2005 at 16:35:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 26, 2005 at 15:46:33, chandler yergin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 26, 2005 at 14:44:22, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 26, 2005 at 12:29:27, chandler yergin wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The Fredkin Prize was $100,000 for the first team to build or program >>>>>>>>a computer that would defeat the World Champion in a Match! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The Deep Blue Team won it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>No it wasn't >>>>>>> >>>>>>>It was a three stage prize. The first for the author of the first computer to >>>>>>>achieve a master chess rating. Awarded to Belle in 1983. The second for the >>>>>>>first program to produce a 2600 performance rating over 25 consecutive games >>>>>>>against grandmaster players in long (40 moves in 2 hours or slower) games. >>>>>>>Awarded to deep thought in the early 1990's. The final stage was to beat the >>>>>>>world champion in a match. Awarded to IBM in 1997. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Your point would be??? >>>>>> >>>>>>As I Posted! >>>>>> >>>>>>The Fredkin Prize was $100,000 for the first team to build or program >>>>>>a computer that would defeat the World Champion in a Match! >>>>>> >>>>>>Awarded to IBM in 1997. >>>>>> >>>>>>What don't you understand? >>>>>> >>>>>>What do the previous stages have to do with what happened in 1997? >>>>>> >>>>>>Why do deliberately try and Provoke me? >>>>>>Hmmm? >>>>> >>>>>I answered that earlier. IBM spent _millions_ of dollars on the deep blue >>>>>project. The salaries were about $1M per year for the entire team, spread over >>>>>10 years. Not to mention the hardware, the public relations setup, the expenses >>>>>for Kasparov. The prize fund. And they did all of that to win $100,000.00??? >>>>> >>>>>:) >>>>> >>>>>Absolutely amazing logic. I hope you get better advise for investing for your >>>>>retirement, 15+ million dollars over 10 years to get a return of $100,000 is >>>>>_not_ very smart investing... IMHO anyway... >>>> >>>>Why can't you accept your friend HSU's own words? >>>>Pg 263 >>>>"Right after the rematch we did not believe that we would receive the >>>>Fredkin Prize. >>>>While satisfying the original intent of the Prize, >>>>the match did not conform to the Prize Committee's match conditions >>>>set a few years back, in particular the length of the match and the size of the >>>>prize fund." >>>> >>>>Hmmmm? >>> >>> >>>I don't have any idea what point you are trying to make. Perhaps that because >>>he wrote that statement, that somehow implies that winning the Fredkin stage III >>>prize was the ultimate goal of this little exercise? >>> >>>Not true. >>> >>>It was something that happened along the way, for sure. But it was not any >>>driving motivation for IBM as you are trying to imply. It was way too little >>>money for what IBM invested in the DB project... >> >>I have never implied it was the motivation of IBM.. it was the motivation >>of the TEAM. >>It was never any secret! > > >there you are completely "full of it." The fredkin prize was _not_ the >motivation for the "team". We were all in this "grand chase" way before any >Fredkin prize even existed. Sorry. Why do you try and provoke, and why do you mislead? By your own admission and words: The Fredkin Prize "It was a three stage prize. The first for the author of the first computer to achieve a master chess rating. Awarded to Belle in 1983. The second for the first program to produce a 2600 performance rating over 25 consecutive games against grandmaster players in long (40 moves in 2 hours or slower) games. Awarded to deep thought in the early 1990's. The final stage was to beat the world champion in a match. Awarded to IBM in 1997." In the words of HSU: The adventure to create Deep Blue, the first computer to defeat the World Chess Champion in a serious match. "I started the project in 1985." The 'Team' did not exist until then! Sorry...
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