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Subject: Re: Fruit Massy after 55 games (Compares favorably with top engines)

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 17:59:15 06/16/05

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On June 16, 2005 at 20:17:12, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>On June 16, 2005 at 16:55:53, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On June 16, 2005 at 03:47:53, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>
>>>I dont buy it.
>>>The engines had to play all kind of weird stuff.
>>>For example Shredder had to play the positions after 1.d4 b5 2.e4 a6 or 1.e4 b6
>>>2.d4 e6 with black and several times 1.b4 and 1.g4 with white.
>>
>>Shredder used its own book and learning files (or possibly it was pure
>>learning?).  Shredder 9 UCI was used with all defaults.  Games were played under
>>Arena.
>
>I don`t have the UCI version of Shredder 9 but I thought Shredder can not use
>it`s own book under Arena.
>I honestly don`t think the new Shredder book plays lines like 1.d4 e5? or 1.d4
>b6 2.e4 b5? with black.
>
>>
>>>Fruit-massy-intel-profile even had to play one time 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d5? and was
>>>lost in a few moves.
>>>Your test is flawed.
>>
>>Amazing fruit did so well with a bad book.  Imagine what could be accomplished
>>with a good one.
>
>I doubt it`s performance would be only 25 points worse than Shredders
>performance if both had used a good one.

The error bars are swimming pools, and so I really have no idea how strong Fruit
is now.

Time will tell, I imagine.



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