Author: Uri Blass
Date: 14:46:42 08/16/05
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On August 16, 2005 at 17:33:29, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On August 16, 2005 at 17:26:28, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On August 16, 2005 at 17:16:33, Paolo Casaschi wrote: >> >>>>I know that usually when program improve they improve in all time controls. >>>>I do not know of evaluation changes or search changes that make programs weaker >>>>at blitz but stronger at long time control. >>>> >>>>In thoery it can happen but I need to see a proof for it and I believe that >>>>fabien mainly test in blitz time control(he can correct me if I am wrong) >>>>because usually productive changes in blitz of adding knowledge to the >>>>evaluation are also productive at long time control. >>> >>>Do you have any proof or evidence that there is some correlation between blitz >>>strenght and slower speed strenght? >>>If you dont, then we can only compare assumptions and I tend to agree with Bob >>>Hyatt since the same non-correlation is evident with humans and because common >>>sense... >>> >>>--Paolo >> >>Of course there is correlation. >> >>Look at every rating list at long time control and you can see Shredder,Fruit >>Fritz,Junior,Hiarcs at the top of the list. >> >>Now look at rating list at blitz. >>What do you see? >> >>Surprise for you >>Again the same programs. >> >>You do not believe it? >>Here are 2 rating lists one for blitz and another one for longer time control. >> >> >>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/rangliste.html >>http://www.miko42.de/turniere/blitzturniere/blitzrangliste.html >> >> >>Uri > >Did you even look at your data? The programs do _not_ finish in the same order. Yes but the difference is small. Fritz is 38 elo better than hiarcs at long time control and 6 elo weaker than hiarcs at faster time control. It is only 44 elo difference. Uri
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