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Subject: Re: Maybe Fritz5.32 is simply better in the opening stage of the game

Author: Dan Kiski

Date: 07:13:05 02/24/99

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On February 24, 1999 at 09:05:12, blass uri wrote:

>
>On February 23, 1999 at 11:55:42, blass uri wrote:
>
>>
>>On February 23, 1999 at 10:21:53, Dan Kiski wrote:
>>
>>>I read a number of posts on the subject of Rebel allegedly cooking some set
>>>tests a while back and wondered if Fritz had done something similar.
>>>
>>>When I play engine 5.15 v 5.32 tests using the Nunn openings I find 5.32 will
>>>win by Impressive margins 15 - 5, 15.5 - 4.5, 14.5 - 5.5. But when I play engine
>>>v engine normal matches they seem relatively even.
>>
>>It seems that they cooked Fritz5.32 to win the nunn test games.
>>This proves that the nunn test does not prove nothing about the strength of
>>chess engines because it is a known test.
>>
>>I suggest another test based on the positions after the 10 move of black in the
>>last category 18+ tournament.
>>
>>Uri
>
>There is a different explanation.
>
>Maybe Fritz5.32 is better at the opening stage of the game and it is the reason
>that  Fritz5.32 is getting better results when both sides do not use the opening
>book in the nunn positions.
>
>If this is the case then I can understand the fact that Fritz5.32 is not better
>in practical games because usually both sides are out of book only near move 20
>and Fritz5.32 is not better after move 20
>
>I suggest to do a match of 40 games based on all the 20 positions after 1 ply:
>after 1.a3,1.a4,1.b3,1.b4,.....
>
>I am sure that Chessbase did not tune Fritz for this match so if Fritz5.32 wins
>convincingly then it will be a proof that Fritz5.32 is clearly better in the
>opening stage then Fritz5.16
>
>Uri

Interesting idea, I know I am not the only one to have noticed this I exchanged
games via e-mail with Mike Hurd from here about a month ago and his games of the
Nunn tests although using different computer than mine showed the same results
that being a big margin for 5.32 over 5.16.
Dan Kiski.




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