Author: Hristo
Date: 23:17:15 03/17/99
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On March 17, 1999 at 14:13:47, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On March 17, 1999 at 14:05:28, KarinsDad wrote: > >>On March 17, 1999 at 13:18:00, Bruce Moreland wrote: >> >>[snip] >>> >>>Who cares? >>> >>>You could have made more effort to get this corrected before trying to destroy >>>their business by casting aspersions at them in public. >>> >>>Other people have problems and misunderstandings with people at chess servers, >>>and either handle it on the server or chalk it up to the extra friction involved >>>in communicating through a piece of wire. >>> >>>It is wrong to try to wreck someone's business like this by trying to put them >>>on trial in front of hundreds of people over some pissy little incident. >>> >>>bruce >> >>I concur. >> >>Instead of being reasonable, both sides are purposely being unreasonable and >>bringing their unreasonableness to this forum. >> >>Instead of dropping the issue and going back onto the server (how many messages >>did you post on this Mark?), Mark is playing the martyr and "sticking to his >>principles". Although principles are a good thing, people who are constantly >>looking for "social injustices" and casting aspersions on others, especially for >>such a trivia issue quickly lose their credibility in a forum such as this. >> >>And Mr. Boehm banning Mark for violating the server rule in such a circumstance >>is also being unreasonable. >> >>It doesn't matter that much who is in the right and who is in the wrong on such >>a minor issue, what matters is how you handle the disagreement. If the two of >>them do not shake hands and resolve the issue like gentlemen, I think we should >>just ignore them. >> >>KarinsDad :( > > >I agree with everything you said except for the server rule issue. Giving out >a password is a 'death penalty' crime in most places. Because that _instantly_ >removes any accountability for actions taken by that user. IE once you publish >your password, someone uses that account, logs on and is abusive to a player, >and there is no way to get to the 'right person'. > >Here at UAB, if we find someone using someone else's account, we remove _both_ >accounts and the students are 'on their own' for computing resources for the >rest of their academic program. If they want to 'push this' we have a direct >academic policy that makes sharing a password instant grounds for academic >dismissal. And students have to read/sign this policy before we give them an >account. > >So this is a _serious_ problem, not a minor deal, when you think about how you >are going to handle accountability. > >My main comment would be that as computer chess enthusiasts, we need to be >much more careful and not step on toes. Because we are going to end up with >no place to play, unless we set up a computer-only server ourselves. And that >would be gross... compared to what we have right now... cool-off Bob ... :) Life is good, and these days its even better for "computer-chess enthusiasts" ...we have crafty, no ? ... How would you feel if we tried to cut off your tounge every time you misled or lied ... ??? "accountability" is something you can talk about only if you KNOW the truth, and if you don't, well, then you are nothing more, but a *bloody* politic convincing everybody what constitutes a 'death penalty'. There will always be enough people to setup chess servers for people to play ...and we need free people there that behave like realy *free* people. Cheers. Hristo
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