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Subject: Re: How far does one take this?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:13:47 03/17/99

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On March 17, 1999 at 14:05:28, KarinsDad wrote:

>On March 17, 1999 at 13:18:00, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>[snip]
>>
>>Who cares?
>>
>>You could have made more effort to get this corrected before trying to destroy
>>their business by casting aspersions at them in public.
>>
>>Other people have problems and misunderstandings with people at chess servers,
>>and either handle it on the server or chalk it up to the extra friction involved
>>in communicating through a piece of wire.
>>
>>It is wrong to try to wreck someone's business like this by trying to put them
>>on trial in front of hundreds of people over some pissy little incident.
>>
>>bruce
>
>I concur.
>
>Instead of being reasonable, both sides are purposely being unreasonable and
>bringing their unreasonableness to this forum.
>
>Instead of dropping the issue and going back onto the server (how many messages
>did you post on this Mark?), Mark is playing the martyr and "sticking to his
>principles". Although principles are a good thing, people who are constantly
>looking for "social injustices" and casting aspersions on others, especially for
>such a trivia issue quickly lose their credibility in a forum such as this.
>
>And Mr. Boehm banning Mark for violating the server rule in such a circumstance
>is also being unreasonable.
>
>It doesn't matter that much who is in the right and who is in the wrong on such
>a minor issue, what matters is how you handle the disagreement. If the two of
>them do not shake hands and resolve the issue like gentlemen, I think we should
>just ignore them.
>
>KarinsDad :(


I agree with everything you said except for the server rule issue.  Giving out
a password is a 'death penalty' crime in most places.  Because that _instantly_
removes any accountability for actions taken by that user.  IE once you publish
your password, someone uses that account, logs on and is abusive to a player,
and there is no way to get to the 'right person'.

Here at UAB, if we find someone using someone else's account, we remove _both_
accounts and the students are 'on their own' for computing resources for the
rest of their academic program.  If they want to 'push this' we have a direct
academic policy that makes sharing a password instant grounds for academic
dismissal.  And students have to read/sign this policy before we give them an
account.

So this is a _serious_ problem, not a minor deal, when you think about how you
are going to handle accountability.

My main comment would be that as computer chess enthusiasts, we need to be
much more careful and not step on toes.  Because we are going to end up with
no place to play, unless we set up a computer-only server ourselves.  And that
would be gross...  compared to what we have right now...



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