Author: A. Steen
Date: 11:09:09 11/22/05
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On November 21, 2005 at 11:32:53, Oreopoulos Kostas wrote: >Sorry but your analysis is based on what your computer says, Sorry, you are totally wrong - where do you get such an idea from? It is specifically _not_ based on computer analysis. If you read the preceding thread, you will see I corrected some totally erroneous conclusions by *** and ******* who were the people quoting faulty computer analysis and who are too weak as players themselves to see the flaws. > and most of the >positions you say are dead drawn, are actually better for white. Again, you are totally wrong. But we shall see, OK? :) I repeat I have made no analysis mistakes. My only mistake is to try and correct the nonsense ejaculations of weak (< 2500) players. >For example in the position you have afte Ng4 Bg4 Rg4 you say this is dead >drawn.!!! I'll ignore your insult by the "!!!". Yes, it is dead drawn. Here is the position: [D]6rk/3b3q/npNp4/2pPp3/1PP1Ppr1/P1Q5/5RP1/4BRK1 w - - 0 34 Now, let me expand on something. We are talking about a game between a super-GM who excels at tactics, and a 32-CPU tactical computer monster. So when I say the game is a "dead draw", it is meant it is a dead draw given the nature of the opponents, as we descend into pure tactics. The outcome _has_ to be a perpetual check. Between tactically weaker opponents (such as you, as we demonstrate just a few lines below) other outcomes are possible, but that is 100% irrelevant. >There are many chanches here. Yes, if and only if at least one of the players is tactically weak. There is a tactical tightrope. White has more chance of falling off. Given who is playing white, white will not fall off. Black should not fall off either, as his moves are easy to find. The result is a draw by perpetual. But I will show that. >For example White may have the Knight sacrifice >Ne5 That is the _only_ move I bothered to analyse when concluding the game was drawn. There is no "may" about it - the move is compulsory. Any other move besides this obvious one leads to a demonstrable loss for White. btw this demonstrates the value to black of allowing the dumb computer to capture on a7 and move his N out of play... its fate is to be sacced for a pawn. Smart man, K. :) > de5 Qe5 These are forced too. Time for a position: 6rk/3b3q/np6/2pPQ3/1PP1Ppr1/P7/5RP1/4BRK1 b - - 0 36 >Qg7 > Bc3 or smthg like that with a possible inclusion of b5 Nc7. Your first and ENORMOUS BLUNDER. Sorry, but 36 .. Q-g7?? is a move that is truly ridiculous to even consider. HYDRA would doubtless counter 37. Q-h5+ (your 37. B-c3 is much weaker, though it still wins easily) and after the only black response, 38. B-c3+ and an immediate 1-0. But we do not analyse by choosing (like someone else here who I am no longer even bothering to reply to) good moves for white and forcing black to play idiotic blunders, OK? :) So, I will put your 36. .. Q-g7 into the dustbin and play the correct move. This is a GUARANTEED position from the start one (which I correctly stated was dead drawn and you wrongly "corrected" me). The correct and only reply from the diagrammed position above is of course 36. .. R8-g7. I give the position after that: [D]7k/3b2rq/np6/2pPQ3/1PP1Ppr1/P7/5RP1/4BRK1 w - - 0 37 ************** Now - what do you want to play? **************** I reassert - this position, which arises as one of two logical descendants from Kasimdzhanov's original and brilliant 26. .. Ra-g8!, is like its brother a DEAD DRAW. As you are obviously a weak player (your Q-g7 suggestion is one no 1800+ player could make...), let me help you. 37. B-c3 is forced for white. Black *must* free the pin (with K-g8) but he can safely interpose .. PxP here. I have not checked this tactically by computer, but I can't see advantage one way or the other from doing or delaying the pawn exchange (.. cxb4 for algebraists). I will leave it out, therefore, and play 37. .. K-g8 immediately. So we have the position (forced from the last one) of: [D]6k1/3b2rq/np6/2pPQ3/1PP1Ppr1/P1B5/5RP1/5RK1 w - - 0 38 Here I see three plausible moves for white. All are draws AT BEST for white. Any other moves here, 0-1. Choose one, reply and I will demonstrate the draw to you. That is a fair offer. Or, if you choose something other than 37. B-c3, I will demonstrate 0-1. Please use all the computer assistance you can (you need it), and by all means consult the various talkchess.com "chess experts" :) - though from recent evidence I would not consider that likely to assist your cause at all. >Certainly there is much play here There is play, that is not the point. But deviation from the correct (and obvious) sequences (especially by white) can have all sorts of results. But "correct" is tactically easy to find - and the result is a draw by perpetual. SUMMARY 26. .. Ra-g8! was a brilliant choice by Kasimdzhanov, contrary to the opinion of several talkchess.com "experts". It yields a forced draw against a very dangerous opponent. Alas, RK fumbled right at the end of a nearly optimal sequence in a position where the correct move is utterly obvious (tension? nerves?) and allowed incursion by the WR on the 7th. The correct move (B-f6) lead to a dead draw. I have really spent enough time on this, and normally I don't bother to discuss analysis with weak ( < 2500) players. (Nothing personal; they cannot understand, get aggressive, start seeing their errors, then get defensive and start to try and justify things, making more errors - common pattern, very boring for me). But, as you have been polite, we can continue. I await your response. Best, A.S.
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