Author: Ryan B.
Date: 19:54:21 12/22/05
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On December 22, 2005 at 22:43:35, Joseph Ciarrochi wrote: > >I am very respectiful of the creator of fruit 2.2. and the way he has influenced >programing. Having said that, it looks to me that toga is similar to fruit, but >also clearly distinguishable from fruit in terms of how it evaluats a postion. > > Check out the stats here : >http://kd.lab.nig.ac.jp/chess/cegt/engine-distance-table-best-300.shtml > > >Unforutnately, there are no head to head comparisons of fruit and toga, but you >can look at how similar they are when competing against the same engine. For >example, togas evaluations are more similar to ktula 7.5 evaluations than >fruits. > >this is not definitive reasoning, unfortunately. Fruit went comericial between >version 2.1 and 2.2, and the new code was no longer public access. maybe the >observed differences are due to what was added in 2.2. i.e., maybe fruit 2.1 >is almost identifical to toga, but 2.2 is quite different? any data on this? > >best >Joseph > > > > > > >On December 22, 2005 at 22:15:18, Peter Kappler wrote: > >>On December 22, 2005 at 20:33:50, Zappa wrote: >> >>>A different view: >>> >>>Hydra, too weak to show at Paderborn >>>Zappa, the best thing since sliced bread >>>Fruit, proving once again that KISS works. >>>Toga II, the clone of fruit with literally 50 lines changed that people somehow >>>credit as a real engine >> >>And isn't it true the the author of Toga initially tried to claim that the code >>was 100% his? It's beyond me why anybody recognizes Toga as a distinct engine. >>It sounds like it contains about as much original work as a Chessmaster >>personality. >> >>-Peter >> >> >>>Rybka, an interesting and totally different approach that seems to work real >>>well >>> >>>anthony Toga is a more tactical less positional version of Fruit 2.1. Very little change in actual personality beyond that. Ryan
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