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Subject: Re: Thanks for telling me its strength is not positional!

Author: Marc Lacrosse

Date: 04:58:12 01/15/06

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On January 15, 2006 at 04:56:15, Uri Blass wrote:

>
>Your experiment show nothing
>
Mmmm.
I agree my method is not perfect but I think it is not without any value.
>
>My point is that you cannot compare number of solution in x seconds with number
>of solutions in y seconds and get conclusions.

Your counterexemple is OK but does not prove that this comparison has no sense
in any other more usual cases.

>
>The only logical comparison is comaparison of time to solve x solutions and time
>to solve y solutions and you did not do that comparison.
>
>Uri

Why are you always so peremptory ?
I do not see anything in your post supporting the fact that your recommended
comparison should be the _only_ logical one.

Moreover your clear-clut unproven affirmation is easy to refute.

Just take this simple example :
Two engines A and B
100 positions to solve
Please plot the following values :

solved positions	time A		time B
	0		00		00
	10		10		05
	20		21		13
	30		33		24
	40		46		38
	50		60		55
	60		75		75
	70		91		98
	80		108		124
	90		126		153
	100		145		185

If I take your criterion examining the time needed to solve 30 positions, engine
B (24 sec) is a faster searcher than engine A (33sec).
But If I take your criterion to see the time needed to solve 90 positions,
engine A (126sec) is faster than B (153 sec).
Where is the truth ?
It completely depends on your arbitrary choice of the time at which you compare
the engines.

Moreover, you cannot compare engines whose strength is very different with a
single set of testpositions using your methodology whereas you can do it with
mine as each engine is compared to itself in mine.


So I surely would not say that your ideas are false but I feel you could be more
prudent when you affirm that yours are the one and only truth...

Regards

Marc






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