Author: Tim George
Date: 14:06:07 01/27/06
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On January 27, 2006 at 16:24:08, Peter Skinner wrote: >Hello everyone, > >Since beginning my term as a moderator I have seen many things happen here on >the CCC that I have some issues with. > >With any bulletin board on the internet you will find groups of people that >stick together based on similar ideas, friendships, point of origin on our >lovely planet and so on.. > >I have _many_ issues I would like to talk about, but here are the main ones: > >1. General treatment of members. >2. Hijacking threads based on personal agendas. >3. Technical vs. non-technical. > >-General treatment of Membership- > >In my moderation philosophy I made it very clear that there are _many_ different >type of people here with _many_ varying levels of technical expertise, and >_many_ levels of understanding the English language. > >Since becoming a moderator I have removed several posts where users are simply >attacking others for no other reason that a misunderstanding over what ideas are >trying to be conveyed. This is a problem, and a serious one. > >I am very proud to be part of such a diverse group of people trying to show >excitement, interest, and knowledge in one of my favorite areas. I am disgusted >in how some users treat newer members, or members that are trying to convey a >particular message/idea relating to an idea or engine simply based that they are >not looking at the information provided but rather the way it was presented. On >an even worse extreme, people simply attack the person regardless whether the >information is accurate or they have an opinion about the data. > >As a group we have to be more conscious of the fact idea it is ok to attack an >idea, but not the person presenting it or discussing it. This is something I am >hoping this little spiel will help with. Do this.. and this place will become >more interesting than it ever was in the past. > >-Hijacking of threads- > >If you have a personal issue with someone, do not insert it into every thread >they make. This is not going to be tolerated any more. Hi Peter I totally agree, especially about how new members are treated brashly and rudely. I think the biggest problem here is with this Graham Banks fellow, he will simply moderator a thread cause he doesn't agree with the opinion of the poster, no matter if a personall attack is intended or not. He so lacks judgment that he will delete a thread simply cause someone complains as if anyone can push his buttons at will. We need a Moderatore more thoughtful and intelligent with the balls not to give in to every whiner that complains. In the past there were some heavy handed moderators here (so I am told) Particulary Robert Bynre, but I would give anything to have Mr Bynre back, he was not the hatchet man this Graham fellow is. > >If you can not have the maturity level to sustain an intelligent conversation >with someone, do not post in their threads or to anything they say. > >The moderation team get soooo many emails about this person calling this person >names and then because the other person retaliates, we get the reverse emails >stating it has been done. This happened this weekend when I was the only >moderator available for the majority of the time, and I just ignored it. I let >the children play and it died out. And I do mean children. You know who you >are.. > >If you hijack a thread for no other reason than to put your elbow in someone >else's rib, then expect a harsh and quick response from the mod team. We are not >babysitters. They get paid.. we don't. I hope this is understood. > >-Technical vs. Non-Technical- > >Recently I removed a thread of Chandler's that said "Rybka sucks for analysis" >that provided no proof of that. Just the topic, some Shredder output and a SLEW >of complaints. Had he stated "Rybka has issues as an analysis tool" and provided >his proof, there would have been no way his post would have been removed. I >would have probably joined in on the conversation to see where it was going and >what he had to offer. I enjoy a good conversation and Chandler does bring up >good points, but he has.. umm.. topic problems :) > >To often a non-technical person will inject his opinion or ask a question and >the more technical people respond very brashly and harshly. This has to stop. > >Do we need to come up with a glossary of terms that will be allowed and not be >allowed? Have a certain number of people enlisted as the technical help desk? >Hand out cookies when someone answers politely? > >Just because your knowledge in a general area is good or great, it does not mean >everyone around you will understand what you are saying or conveying. The same >goes for the other direction. Less knowledgeable individuals may have to explain >more detail what they are trying to say or raise a question about. > >Topic formation has a great deal to do with how the thread will be received and >the people within the thread interacted with. A good formatted topic will yield >more information and better responses. I.e..: > >"Rybka sucks!" = Troll thread, and probably one I will remove. >"Rybka has an endgame bug - details" = Thread many people will look at,. >Especially if you provide details and evidence. > >Do you see the difference and how they two topics would be viewed? Excellent :) > >If we can work on these three issues, the CCC will become a great place once >again where 4 page threads of useful data will appear. People will get into >great heated arguments, share ideas, and in the end probably still disagree but >they will agree to disagree. > >Sound fun? Well only all of you can make it happen. > >I welcome you all to chime in and give your thoughts as this IS your club. > >Peter
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