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Subject: Re: To Mel: you misquoted Dr. Hyatt.

Author: Melvin S. Schwartz

Date: 13:18:32 05/30/99

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On May 30, 1999 at 14:26:51, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:

>On May 30, 1999 at 14:23:19, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:
>
>>Hi Mel,
>>      here it goes a fragment of a post by Dr. Hyatt you are constantly referring in
>>the thread about SSDF testing:
>>
>>----------------------------------------------
>>On May 27, 1999 at 15:51:59, Prakash Das wrote:
>>
>>>Well, I still don't understand the point of this "world championship" then. Sure
>>>, you can call it "hey, if nothing it will be fun", a "test of systems", etc.
>>>But what are exactly is this exercise trying to prove? If program A on hardware
>>>B, beats program D on hardware E - does that say much about A compared to B?
>>>This belies the principles of science - you have to have a uniform platform
>>>for all participants to make any kind of judgement.
>>
>>
>>I don't understand what you don't understand.  This is an "open" competition.
>>Anything is allowed.  Any sort of hardware and software combination that can
>>play chess.  It has _always_ been that way.  It will always be that way.  The
>>question being asked is "what is the strongest electronic chessplayer on the
>>planet?"  Not "what is the strongest program?"  Or "Who is best on equal
>>hardware?"  or anything else...
>>
>>----------------------------------------------
>>
>>      As you can see, you were attributing to Dr. Hyatt words by Prakash Das.
>>José.
>
>       I forgot to add that this is taken from message number 53426.
>José.

The fact I used the wrong author does not change my position on this issue. In
fact, I don't agree that the question is not "what is the strongest program'?
After all, when people look at ratings, reviews, etc., what do you think they
want to know? I believe people want to know WHAT IS THE STRONGEST PROGRAM. The
ONLY way to make a proper judgement on that issue is to compare A against B on
equal hardware. For your information, the author of the post to which I first
responded - Hiarcs vs. Nimzo - said I was CORRECT in what I said about comparing
programs with equal hardware. The problem is as was stated by him was that they
haven't the resources to do it that way! Not that I was wrong!!!

Furthermore, Shep's site is where you'll find tournaments where programs ARE RUN
ON EQUAL HARDWARE.

If you like to see testing done with program against program on unequal hardware
- have a nice day!

Mel



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