Author: James T. Walker
Date: 07:03:05 06/15/99
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On June 14, 1999 at 19:20:03, James Robertson wrote: >On June 14, 1999 at 18:34:00, walter irvin wrote: > >> there seems to be great concern over which program is stronger. i myself want >>the strongest i can get.but alot depends on what you are going to do with the >>program? >> i wish there were a rating for how good a program was at long term slow over >>night thinking. i really believe if there was a separate list for like 3 >>different times,you would get three different winners. >> like blitz from 5-30 sec move >> tourn 3-5 min move >> long term 1-5 hours move >> >>i believe at the slower time limits smart programs such as hiarcs, m-chess, >>rebel,would destroy programs such as fritz ect.because the slower programs would >>not get caught up in tactics so easy,then it would come down to chess >>knowledge,weak faster programs would lose big?????????? > >Not necessarily. Ed Schroeder's testing shows Crafty to be _extremely_ strong at >very long time controls, and it spends a great deal less time in it's eval >function than Hiarcs. > >The new Hiarcs 7.32 seems to be beating Fritz in all speeds of play, fast or >slow. > >Diep just got trashed by Ferret at a long time control, both programs were using >the same hardware, and Ferret is known as a fast tactician. > >I bring up these examples to show that there is no way to tell what will do >better where; it seems to be almost random. :) > >James Hello James, Just one point about Hiarcs beating Fritz at all speeds. I just received H732 last nite and have only played 80 blitz games (Game/5 minutes) but they are auto232 games which allows both Programs to play in their natural element. Fritz is leading with a score of +31 -29 =20. I will not post anymore untill I have 200 games but I see no indication of Hiarcs being superior to Fritz at blitz anyway. If it is it will have to have a major improvement in play in the next 120 games. I do not accept the engine/engine games people are posting here since they seem to be played under unusual circumstances with very wild results. Jim Walker
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