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Subject: Re: I resign the Post as Moderator.

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 16:57:24 07/22/99

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On July 22, 1999 at 19:28:18, Mark Young wrote:

>On July 22, 1999 at 13:46:02, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>Due to severe and unsurpassable differences between me and Bruce Moreland
>>concerning the moderation issue, I publicaly announce my resignation to the
>>post. The reasons: when I was candidate to be moderator, I already stated -as I
>>already have done in several post- that i was not inclined to deletions, neither
>>to warn people because "off topic" posts. That has always seemed to me childish,
>>silly, narrow minded. I already gave my reasons to tolerate that kind of off
>>topic post, so I will not repeat here my ideas about that. Now I am myself
>>victim of a deletion because of a joke that Bruce consider is only worthy to be
>>in the wall of my bathroom. I do not know what kind of things Bruce has seen in
>>his or another walls, by probably he has not seen the joke i wrote here. It is
>>the kind of thing you can lesson in any table after dinner. Not the great thing.
>>For the same token, the sheer fact that Bruce was upset by that or he thought
>>somebody was going to be is something laughable for me, in the very fringe of
>>paronia. But nevertheless maybe he is right and almost all people here share his
>>point of view. I got the second higher number of votes in the election, but
>>maybe it was just a case of statistical error. Maybe it is me who is out of
>>place here, anyway. Maybe this is, like some british programmer warned me to be,
>>a place just for robots, not for human beings. Or in any case is like the robots
>>rule the site and the rest must comply or be deleted, warned and treated like
>>I have nothing againts Bruce as a person, surely he is a nice guy and a
>>respected professional in his area, but I do have something against some of his
>>ideas about how to moderate this site and clearly he feel the same about me. So
>>why I resign instead of him or a long disputation about this issue? Well,
>>because this things cares the less to me. I do not get a life reading, posting
>>or moderating here. Asd Ingo Althofer, the german mathematician saw with his
>>eyes when in my country and my home, I am not precisely a deprived man looking
>>for a place where to get a life. So I think this, my resignation,  is the best
>>things to all and as much there is a replacement for me, nothing will be
>>damaged, all the contrary.
>>I post this not because I want to begin a war or make a melodramatic sortie,
>>because I suppose I will stay reading and posting here from time to time if
>>Bruce graciously abide to that, but I do it just to warn you not to consider me
>>responsible of any actions taken in the goverment of this site from now on.
>I never did understand the moderation representation on CCC. We vote for three
>moderators, but instead of having two of the three moderators agreeing to delete
>a post, we have three three kings that do as they will when they see a post they
>think should be deleted. This approach kills the representation of the mass of
>CCC. Not a very logical way to represent the voters.
>Under the circumstances of how the moderators represent the voters I understand
>and agree with your reasons for resigning. As it stands now if one moderator can
>delete posts at will without the consent of at least one other moderator, this
>leave you unable to represent your position and view as moderator that you ran
>and were elected on by the voters of CCC to represent.

I think this would double the amount of effort required by the moderators.
Instead of just one being "on duty" at a given time, it would need two. If one
moderator has to contact the other two every time an unacceptable post appears,
the post could cause *chaos* here before it is dealt with. If there's no
question about relevance (ie a dirty joke, or indeed any joke that has nothing
to do with computer chess), I'm happy for the moderator on duty to get rid of
it. I think it is unfortunate if moderators start posting off-topic stuff here
(and yes I am sensitive to the fact that not everyone agrees with me about what
is on- and off-topic), but I don't think that any of us wants dirty jokes to be
considered on-topic in this forum. Moderation is an onerous and difficult and
thankless task. Let's none of us make it any harder than it obviously is.

Andrew Williams

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