Author: odell hall
Date: 12:45:38 08/24/99
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On August 24, 1999 at 14:05:06, KarinsDad wrote: >On August 24, 1999 at 13:24:38, rich wrote: > >[snip] >> >> So if someone doesn't drop a piece in a blitz game against Crafty that person >>is likely to have cheated.?!?? Get a grip.Could it be that you are simply >>underestimating human tactical ability?I know some players that are tactical >>genuises with ~1900 elo and no better because they are bad strategicallly. > >I think it is not Robert underestimating human tactical ability, but you >drastically overestimating it. Even tactical geniuses need time. To not drop a >pawn in a complex position in 3 to 7 seconds (the range of time used by the >person James was talking about) is the work of someone who is extremely >experienced in chess (i.e. GM level) or the work of a cheater. I doubt very much >you know tactical geniuses with ~1900 elo (i.e. they may be sharp, but they are >not geniuses or their rating would be much higher) since computers can play 2300 >elo as tactical geniuses without having a shread of strategy in them. > >Bobby Fischer once missed a mate in one in a standard time game. How can someone >of his calibre miss a mate in one? I forget who the players were (one of them >may have been Fine) where one GM missed a mate in two followed by his opponent >missing a mate in two. And these are GMs we are talking about. > >It is unreasonable to think that even a tactical genius will be 100% sharp >throughout one entire blitz game, let alone three in a row. If a player takes 4 >to 5 seconds for most every move, does not make any minor tactical mistakes (I'm >talking 1/4 pawn here, not even a full pawn), then the handwriting is on the >wall. People can claim that it's "possible" for these types of events to occur, >but statistically speaking, people have been sent to jail on a lot less evidence >and on less probable of events. > >Note: This person took 5 seconds on 12 of the first 21 moves. He then took 4 >seconds on 14 of the last 19 moves. This implies someone getting more and more >used to operating a program in the background. The consistency of time, lack of >quick 1 or 2 second moves, and lack of moves over 7 seconds is extremely >noteworthy in a blitz game. Go check out a bunch of GM games against computers >and see if they are as consistent. > >KarinsDad :) Karinsday, I can hardly believe that it is you I am hearing saying these things, especially in light of the extremely hard time you gave me about five months ago on this very issue, I had as much proof or more, yet you continually told me that I cannot prove that the person I named was cheating!!!
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