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Subject: Re: Moderation: Can the moderators be trusted to REALLY ban someone?

Author: John Warfield

Date: 22:16:27 02/07/00

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On February 08, 2000 at 01:10:06, Roger wrote:

>On February 07, 2000 at 17:07:13, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On February 07, 2000 at 16:28:31, James B. Shearer wrote:
>>
>>>On February 07, 2000 at 15:30:51, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>Banning people and not accounts is harder than it seems.
>>>>Imagine that someone makes a new account named "Quimby."  Quimby starts posting
>>>>stuff that makes you suspect it is someone banned.  How do you know?  If Quimby
>>>>does not really cross the line, how can we remove them?
>>>
>>>          Remove them on reasonable suspicion.  If you are feeling generous give
>>>them a chance to prove to your satisfaction that they are someone else.  Are you
>>>claiming there is reasonable doubt about the real identity of "jonathon smith"?
>>
>>I think we need to be very, very careful about being judge, jury and executioner
>>based on suspicion, no matter how strong.  This one seems obvious.  How about
>>some other cases?  Not always so easy.  Sometimes, they take a while to act out
>>the starring role rather than a somewhat calmer pseudo-nym.
>>
>>There are ways to identify them besides guessing.  It is not always clear what
>>to do about someone who joins back under another alias.  What if they should
>>always behave themselves as model citizens, even though we know who they are?
>>
>>I think that they should still be suspended until it is lifted officially by
>>CCC, but not everyone may have the same viewpoint.  And there clearly are two
>>sides to an issue such as this.  My viewpoints are often wrong.
>>
>>I don't think there is any question about the identity of js.
>
>You've been a great moderator, Dann...I admire your wit and your sense of
>fairness, and that of Bruce and KarinsDad as well. You and I may disagree on the
>issue of who should be able to ban, but I agree with you wholeheartedly that the
>aliases of those who are suspended should be suspended.
>
>You've heard the old saying that if you let someone break a rule, the rule gets
>weaker. The rule became weak where ChrisW was concerned.
>
>Roger


  I think he has been a lousy moderator, so has moreland, and especially
karismom.



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