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Subject: Re: Games 11-20/20 Tal 2.03-Shredder 4

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 07:23:41 02/09/00

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On February 09, 2000 at 10:04:43, Thorsten Czub wrote:


>What i could try as a proof for or against the data is,
>to try to replay the games on the same machines, but
>manually without any autoplayer.


Feel free, I won't spend my time with such events, my time is much more
valuable. :-)


>Since my k6-3 is as fast as haralds
>k7, we would have the same hardware for cstal.
>
>concerning shredder, i don't have a 200 MMX anymore.
>but i could use the k6-3 and let cstal 400 mhz play versus
>shredder4 400 manually from the same games/openings 11-20
>harald played. and than we see if the result is that "strange" :-))
>or harald could do the same himself. but i guess he is not
>motivated anymore :-)


Exactly. :-)
But I would like you to verify the short loss in round 12. Does Tal play the
same moves in manual play? Set 3h/game and let the clock run for Shredder as
long as you can see from the log/comments.


>i do not believe that these results show real relations,
>i guess ed is also suspicious that his rebel playing on auto232
>gets the strength HE believes it has. he says he has done
>manually games and in his manually outplayed games rebel played
>stronger. i do understand because i have the same effect with cstal.
>It's no problem for me to play manually games. so i don't car much
>about the autoplayer device.
>but it would be a pity if these autoplayers generate data that
>is not accurate and somehow "strange".


What astonishes me is that Tal uses the Windows-auto232 while Ed only found
problems with the DOS-auto232.




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