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Subject: Re: Crafty vs Commercials

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 09:51:28 04/07/00

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On April 07, 2000 at 00:03:34, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 06, 2000 at 22:32:29, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On April 06, 2000 at 18:07:32, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>>
>>>On April 06, 2000 at 15:51:44, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 06, 2000 at 10:59:33, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I have started a series of matches using the Crafty 17.07 of Chessbase site vs
>>>>>the commercial programs 1. Fritz 6   2. Junior 6   Chess Tiger 12.0e   3. Hiarcs
>>>>>7.32.  The commercial programs will be running on a PII-333 and Crafty is
>>>>>running on a K6-3-450.  All programs will be given 64 Meg for hash tables.  All
>>>>>will be using their own book except for Crafty which I gave the General.ctg book
>>>>>of Fritz 5.32.  Following is the first 6 games Crafty 17.07 vs Fritz 6.  All
>>>>>time controls will be 40/2 + 20/1 + G/30.
>>>
>>><SNIP>
>>>
>>>>Since there is a big difference in hardware and I see that you are pitting for
>>>>example Fritz 6 against Crafty 17.07 a least twice, I strongly recommend you to
>>>>switch computer and allow fritz 6 and Junior 6 to use the AMD K6 III 450 Mhz,
>>>>and crafty 17.07 to use the Pentium 333, then the comparison is considered
>>>>equal.
>>>
>>>There is not a big advantage in hardware.  For Crafty, a K62-450 runs almost at
>>>the same speed as a PII-333.  If you switched hardware, Crafty would run at the
>>>same speed, but Fritz/Junior/etc. would have the hardware advantage.
>>
>>Just for your information, I'm running Crafty on a K6-3-450 and Crafty is almost
>>50% faster than on the PII-333.  That still is only about 40 ELO points max.
>>Jim Walker
>
>
>K6 3 is significantly better than the K6 2...

Just to show you the difference of AMD K6 III 450 over Pentium II and III
I have these Fritzmark figures with F6a and 64 MB hash:

PII -333 320 KN/S
PIII-500 475 KN/S
PIII-550 515 KN/S

AMDK6  II 450 452 KN/S
AMDK6 III 450 480 KN/S

As you can tell there is a big advantage in hardware when you pit Crafty 17.07
against Fritz 6a using a PII-333 the difference is enourmous exactly 160 KN/S
more.

PS: Again if you want a fair comparison test you need to get a Pentium III 500
which is almost as fast as an AMD K6 III 450 Mhz.



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