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Subject: Re: Finally we know how good Crafty is...

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 05:03:41 04/10/00

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On April 10, 2000 at 03:24:17, Bernhard Bauer wrote:

>On April 10, 2000 at 01:48:40, Jouni Uski wrote:
>
>>Thanks for SSDF! Crafty's rating is only 2 points from Hiarcs7.32! Wow. And
>>note, that with Celeron PC Crafty runs relatively 30% faster.
>>
>>Jouni
>
>The SSDF can not tell us how good Crafty really is.
>They may only give us a lower bound for the strength of Crafty against
>computers.
>
>My Crafty doesn't use the chessbase interface.
>My Crafty uses the Nalimov egtbs - without the SSDF space limitations.
>My Crafty runs on two processors.
>
>But I use Crafty now for several years, so I don't need anybody to tell me
>how strong Crafty really is.
>
>Someone in the past stated that commercial programs are at least 100 rating
>points stronger than Crafty, so now we may ask:
>Where are the commercials???

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What am I missing??

1 Fritz 6.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz           2721   39   -37   368   67%  2594
8 Crafty 17.07/CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz      2624   46   -44   251   62%  2541
                                          -----
                                            97  Points

Most of the statements about Crafty being below the commercials referred to
Crafty 15.XX/16.XX a year ago when Fritz 5.32 and Junior 5 and Hiarcs 7.32 were
new.  I have watched Crafty get better each month while the commercials only
come out once a year.  The new Hiarcs should be due in a few months.  I was
about to test Crafty myself (At 40/2) because of the noticed improvement over
the past year untill I was told that SSDF was coming out with the a new list
including Crafty.  Crafty is a great program but when Fritz 6 came out it fell
behind again.  The K6-2 is not the best platform for Crafty for sure.  The K6-3
is much better but it is also better for Hiarcs.  As for the info below, I
believe you are correct and Dr. Hyatt must be applauded for his work.
Jim Walker
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>
>By the way,
>Crafty was one of the first available programs to have book learning.
>Crafty was one of the first available programs to have position learning.
>Crafty was one of the first available programs to use correct pgn.
>Crafty was the first available programs to use egtbs (S. J. Edwards)
>Crafty was the first available programs to use egtbs (E. Nalimov)
>Crafty was the first available programs to use symetric multi processing.
>And Crafty runs on many different operating systems.
>And Crafty comes with source code, you may modify it for your own purposes.
>And Crafty is free.
>
>No wonder that Crafty has a lot of lovers
>
>Kind regards
>Bernhard



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