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Subject: Re: Chessfun and Nunn1 Tests

Author: blass uri

Date: 08:37:45 05/10/00

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On May 10, 2000 at 10:41:56, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On May 10, 2000 at 09:06:55, blass uri wrote:
>
>>The question is what do you want to compare.
>
>Yes that's true, which wasn't entirely clear IMO. I only see a lot of blitz
>results and a few standard games that can't be compared correctly.
>
>>I agree that they cannot be used for strength assessment in different positions
>>but I think that comparing programs in the nunn match is interesting.
>
>Yes and I've never said otherwise. It's just wrong to assume that Nunn positions
>are better or more fair than any other set available.
>
>>I do not think that learning had a big influence on the results.
>
>Maybe not, but you don't know. If you run successive blitz matches (20-80 games)
>and forget to clear learning then you're in trouble, especially if you compare
>them with results where you did remember to clear learning. That should be
>_very_ obvious. I've asked twice if the learning was cleared consistently during
>blitz matches, no answer has yet been offered.
>
>>The different results 9:0 for Fritz and 11:9 for crafty were because of the fact
>>that one engine was slower and the usual result is about 15:5
>
>That's is your opinion and not a fact at all. None of the unusual results were
>explained properly. Due to statistics there's no such thing as an usual result.
>You should know better.

Most of the results were close to 15:5 so when something is significantly
different it is natural to call it an unusual result and it is logical first to
check if there is a problem with the games with these results.

It was discovered that Crafty was slower in the games of 9:0 and that Frit was
slower in the 11:9 games.

This is probably the right explanation to the unusual results.

Uri



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