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Subject: Re: The privilege of becoming a beta-tester

Author: Chessfun

Date: 12:57:35 09/05/00

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On September 05, 2000 at 15:34:24, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>There are reasons not to tell ideas.
>
>1)A tester may keep an idea as a secret if (s)he wants to use the idea for
>his(her) program in the future and do not want other programmers to know about
>it in order to have an advantage.


Then IMO this tester should never have applied to test, and should look
at his/her own motivations.


>2)I think that some ideas may be productive to most programmers and the testers
>can tell these ideas only to the company _X_ so company _Y_ will not have the
>advantage of knowing the ideas.


Again if that be the case that tester is not honorable. If he/she was testing
for both _X_ and _Y_ then they both have the right to share in the idea.
Assuming the idea relates to both programs.


>If the tester does not get money from company _X_ the tester may not keep the
>idea as secret and tell it for everyone.


Or he could call company _X_ and say "I have this great idea ! I'll sell you
it for $0.20 hour" then he could call _Y_ and say "_X_ have offered me $0.20
hour what you offer?". The whole notion to me that those types of things may
happen is abhorrent. Hopefully both _X_ and _Y_ would tell the tester to take
a hike and put the word out to all other comapnies about him/her and they would
never get to test anything again.


>If the tester get money from company _X_ based on selling(I did not suggest
>exactly 0.1$ per hour but suggested the money will be based on sales and 0.1$
>per hour was only an example of a possible result) the tester will be motivated
>not to tell the ideas to everybody.


No, he will be motivated to auction them to the highest bidder. IMO he should
be satisfied with the software and the credits. If he chooses to make his own
program at a later date then he should at that point decline testing of other
software. I think it is simply a matter of moral scruple’s.


>>Ask, what right do I have to ask, when I have offered my services.
>>My services are offered to both non as well as commercial programmers
>>therefore what difference does it make to me if a non-commercial
>>becomes a commercial. The programmer is the one who is putting his/her
>>time, blood and tears into it. If he/she can make the jump to becoming
>>commercial I wish them all the best luck in the world.
>
>I agree that the programmer do most of the effort but the beta testers may be
>also reponsible to part of the jump.


Even if....they were in part responsible, other beta testers would have
applied....but there is only one programmer, in the case of amateurs programs.

Sarah.

>Uri



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