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Subject: Re: penalty for opening H file of opponent when white and castled kingside

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:22:10 10/04/00

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On October 04, 2000 at 07:54:00, Ricardo Gibert wrote:

>On October 03, 2000 at 18:18:25, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On October 03, 2000 at 12:34:11, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On October 03, 2000 at 11:58:05, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 02, 2000 at 13:54:23, Mike Adams wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The move that my freind said crafty considered was the pawn takes knight move
>>>>>toward the end.  Knight takes bishop earlier wreked the positon and i dont think
>>>>>pulsar would get itself into that kind of postion again with the current
>>>>>evaluate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>taking the knight isn't particularly bad.  NxB opens a file against your own
>>>>king.  PxN (I assume that is the knight you are talking about taking) is a
>>>>reasonable move for white.  He wants that open file.
>>>
>>>Mike did not mean to that knight.
>>>
>>>He meant to taking the knight by gxf3 in the following line
>>>
>>>[D]r1bq1rk1/ppp2p2/2n4p/3pP1pn/3P4/2P2NB1/P1P1B1PP/R2QK2R b KQ - 0 14
>>>
>>>Nxg3 hxg3 g4???? Qd2 gxf3????
>>>
>>>avoiding gxf3 is a simple tactics.
>>>Crafty17.11 can see at depth 7 that gxf3 is bad.
>>>
>>>The bigger problem is to avoid g4 and crafty17.11 needs depth 9 for it.
>>>
>>>Fritz5.32 can avoid gxf3 at depth 5 and it can avoid g4 also at depth 5.
>>>
>>>Hiarcs4 can avoid gxf3 at depth 3.
>>>Faile 1.4.4 can avoid gxf3 at depth 6.
>>>CometB02 can avoid gxf3 at depth 5.
>>>
>>>All these programs that are not the best programs need few seconds or less than
>>>1 second on a slow hardware to avoid gxf3.
>>>
>>>I think that you need to improve the tactical ability of your program and
>>>working on positional knowledge is less important.
>>>
>>>Chess is a tactical game.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>Yes... but the tactical ability improves automatically.  You should try it on
>>my quad xeon.  It fries tactical things there.  :)
>
>Crafty is a good program, but perhaps the way you should be looking at this is
>maybe you would write a better program if you were running on slower hardware.
>Fast hardware can cover up a lot of deficiencies of a program as you have
>essentially pointed out.

Why design for obsolete hardware?  Within a year or two everybody will be on
hardware faster than my quad xeon (which is probably about the speed of a
1.5ghz machine or so).  With only so many hours available for working on Crafty,
spending time on the parts that new hardware won't fix makes more sense, IMHO.




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