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Subject: Re: GrandMaster Standards

Author: Mark Young

Date: 08:23:18 03/29/98

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On March 29, 1998 at 11:04:51, Fernando Villegas wrote:

>
>On March 29, 1998 at 10:32:49, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>What standards should be used to judge if a computer program is of
>>grandmaster strenght? Should we use a rating standard and say if a
>>computer reaches 2550 elo then its of grandmaster strenght, or do we
>>need to study how it wins. Does the program need to have the positional
>>understanding of a grandmaster to be one?  I ask this because the micros
>>are very close if not already there to meet some of the standards. What
>>standards should we use to say yes this program is of grandmaster
>>strenght? I think its telling that a top GM like Anand would even
>>consider playing Rebel, unless he had some respect for the way the
>>micros are now playing.
>>
>>                                                 Mark Young
>
>Hi Mark:
>I suppose a program or Godzilla, whatever, should be considered of GM
>strenght level if gets enought elo points beating GM human players, not
>other computers. Any system of measument only has sense inside the pool
>of data where it was done. A program can have a 2600 elo measured
>against other programs and it's OK, but that rating cannot be considered
>as meaning a GMI standard in human terms. Then, if inside the human pool
>a program gets the rating, it does not mmatter how, if thorught
>knowledge or sheer speed. Issues about undesrtanding are confusing and
>shadowy, elo points gotten in competion are not.
>fernando
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I agree 100% it must be play with human players. When I said elo i meant
Fide rating. I know some people who would argue that even if a computer
got a 2550 fide rating they would not consider it a GM. I tend to agree
that the rating is the only thing that should matter. But many people
who I have respect for make good points in the other direction.



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