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Subject: Re: Xboard books

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 10:26:59 05/21/01

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On May 21, 2001 at 13:05:48, David Rasmussen wrote:

>On May 21, 2001 at 07:04:55, Pete Galati wrote:
>
>>On May 21, 2001 at 02:56:10, David Rasmussen wrote:
>>
>>>I don't understand why xboard/winboard doesn't support books on it's own. If it
>>>did, no one would have to implement opening book in their engines unless they
>>>wanted book learning and such. And even that could be supported by xb/wb. Even
>>>if people didn't want to use this feature, they could just turn it off.
>>>Many people are reinventing opening book features all the time. And it really
>>>isn't as exciting as developing search or evaluation etc.
>>
>>That's not the nature of Xboard/Winboard.  The opening book is the Chess
>>program's problem, not Xboard/Winboard's problem.  They're just there to give
>>you an interface to the Chess program.
>>
>
>I know, but opening book support is so boringly simple, that it might as well be
>the interface that does it. It is very boring to implement opening book in a
>chess engine (at least for me), still, it can be done in really bad and really
>good ways. Why not let the engine handle this? It would make any winboard
>program, such as TSCP, have powerful openbook capabilities at hand.

I agree, it does open some posibilities.

>
>>Besides, most of the programers won't want Tim Mann to be the one making the
>>opening books for their programs, and my guess is that Tim Mann probably isn't
>>interested in doing that either.
>>
>
>Why would Tim Mann be doing it? If this is to be done in any kind of sane way,
>users, programmers etc. should be able to build their own books, control
>learning features etc. from the engine.

I think Gian-Carlo Pascutto indicated that this is in the works already?  I'm
surprised.  But I wonder if a special utility for buiding books for
Winboard/Xboard will be included with them.  I can't picture building it into
the gui.

Pete



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