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Subject: Oh, my God, what a broadside I got...!

Author: Fernando Villegas

Date: 13:06:07 04/19/98


Hi all:
well, I knew this kind of things produce an automatic broadside from the
good guys, all those that just close his mind to any kind of debate
where non correct political issues are in discussion. I had been told of
how strong is that kind of attitude in anglosaxon countries, but
anyway... So, let me insist in the following points:
a) To bruce: I cannot do the quotations you want because I don't even
remember the title of the book I read at fast pace in a store. It was
not, in any case, "that" kind of books; it was a serious one published
by one of those universtiy publishing houses that produces academical
kind of stuff. OK, if you think I am inventing a book to support what I
think... I don't care, I don't try to probe nothing, and not presenting
a paper in my alma mater, etc.
b) Is not truth -although is now a very popular point of view, very
progressive and democratical- that IQ does not measures nothing
relevant. It does, Thoersten. Of course comparisons are made inside the
same cultural pool. I am talking of men and women of the same country,
level of education, etc. The guys that made that books were no stupid;
they did not compare a phicisist from USA with women from a tribe in
Mombaza.
c) Picasso, as well most if not all great performers in arts, are not,
as some people believe, creative but not neccesarily smart, high IQ
people. They are. Now I can quote, Bruce: the last and most extensive
and intensive research of these matter was conducted by Dr R. Ochse in a
book entitled "Before the Gates of Excellence", Cambridge University
Press, where he quotes a research made in 1926 where is proved that
"historical genuses were  assesed as being above normal -IQ, ranging
from 120 to 200, with a mean of 158,9..". After examining that and
another facts, the author say that althought many other things are
neccesary for preeminence in creative perfomances, a high level of
intelligence is neccesary.
d) If high IQ people are or not happy, are or not succesful or even if
that kind of academic intelligence is so important or not, if it is
"just" a measure of verbal or mathematical abilities -"just"...-,
that's another matter. I am not going to discuss the philosophy of this
issue. I just remembered some facts and used it for giving an element of
explanation about the issue why women does not oplay chess or does not
appear in places like this.
e) If somebody uses this kind of research to justify racist positions,
that's also another fact. We cannot stop short in any kind of debate
just because there is people willing to use something for backing his
political positions. Should we stop chemical research because people
like Husseim can hire a guy to produce mass destruction weapons?
ANYWAY END BESIDE, I AM NOT INTERESTED IN THIS ISSUE, FOLK.



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